Captain America vs. Nolan's Batman trilogy team

Originally posted by KingD19
He specified that they are in character, meaning they act how they would act in the films. And in the films that's how they would act. Tell me I'm wrong. Even knowing they're up against Cap, most of them couldn't put their differences aside. I don't think Batman would even consider working with most of them.

And I read comics, I know what he's done. But this is the Movie Vs. Forum. Movies only, bud. 😮‍💨

The OP also stated that they are here to fight Cap, not one another, and acting in character, knowing what they know here, they would be fools to not pool their resources and work together to win. Are you suggesting that they would either attack each other, or split up and fight on their own, over fighting as one side against the other? Because thats not what Im getting from this, or really any other battle thread.

I'm suggesting that Joker's likely to do that. And that none of them would be able to work well enough together to be effective and seen as a "team".

A small group of people doesn't make a team.

The OP called them a team, its that reason I keep referring to them as a team here, especially since they are all fighting towards a common goal, and not just doing what they want here.

But they're in character. Do you not understand what that means? In character, Joker's just as likely to betray them or straight out attack Batman than he is to fight Cap, for example.

Originally posted by DTM
No, it wouldnt. And Im pretty sure I mentioned several times that I assumed they WERE NOT on opppsing sides of the entire city, just enough space that they werent right on top of each other either (as again, if so, just have them fight in a warehouse, why have them fighting in such a vast area if the fight is going to take place in only a minute part of that area)

Originally posted by DTM
but theyre Id imagine on opposing ends of Gotham City

How exactly would they find each other, seeing as you'd have them starting at opposing ends of Gotham and the OP didn't give either side any form of transportation?

OK, I didnt mean COMPLETELY OPPOSITE ENDS of Gotham (my bad for saying that initially), though I did assume they would at least be a mile or two away. I didnt realize standard rules meant they popped into these fights within 30 feet from each other, and have said (several times now) if thats the case then yes Cap wins, as that takes away most all of this teams advantages.

Originally posted by DTM
Its not the weaponry, its the people behind it that matters most, and Batmans team has it over generic Hydra soliders in all areas, with ease.

hes casually blocking away and taking out people firing insta kill guns at him. This group doesn't even have guns and batmans fighting ability isn't as good as caps....nor are his reflexes or his strength.

Anyways I feel Bane would want to compete with batman to see who could beat cap first. Batman would want nothing to do with any of them. Catwomen is...well a nothing. ras wouldn't be willing to work with any of them either and probably be plotting to end gotham as his end game more then anything. Joker would turn on everyone just trying to kill as many people as possible and scarecrow would hide around a corner waiting to spray him. That would result in 1 of 2 things.

1) it doesn't work

2) It works but cap goes into a panic and cuts loose on everyone which equal 1 hit kills to everyone

Honestly holding back it would still probably be 1-2 hit KO's

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Originally posted by KingD19
But they're in character. Do you not understand what that means? In character, Joker's just as likely to betray them or straight out attack Batman than he is to fight Cap, for example.

Yes, I understand fully what In Character means, trust me. Do you understand that the OP specifically stated that its Batman Team vs. Capt America, right? So in character is a sub-set from the overall rule of this thread, defeat your scheduled opponent, which in this case, for Team Batman, is Cap.

They're called the Batman Team because it's all of them vs Cap. But in character, they wouldn't act like a team. And you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

No, I dont know it, dont tell me what I know or what I believe. I do know that enemies can, and frequently do, band together to fighting a common foe. The OP has given them their common foe here, in this thread, its Cap. Therefore I see no reason why they wouldnt temporarily put aside their current situations to fight Cap, as thats what the OP has said this thread is all about.

I mean if someone said its Superman and Doomsday vs. Thanos, am I really going to believe Doomsday turns on Superman from the get go, and Thanos simply watches and slaughters whoever wins? No, the thread says clearly that its Superman and Doomsday against Thanos, so thats how Id vote it as, Superman and Doomsday teaming up to fight Thanos.

yeah just because they are a "team" doesn't mean they won't back stab each other. I don't re call there ever being something that equals teams can't dysfunction and not work well together

Edit: either way dysfunction or no it wont change anything. If they preped and bats was out of charecter then they could nuke gotham and end cap but thats about it.

Originally posted by DTM
No, I dont know it, dont tell me what I know or what I believe. I do know that enemies can, and frequently do, band together to fighting a common foe. The OP has given them their common foe here, in this thread, its Cap. Therefore I see no reason why they wouldnt temporarily put aside their current situation to fight Cap, as thats what the OP has said this thread is all about.

I mean is someone said its Superman and Doomsday vs. Thanos, am I really going to believe Doomsday turns on Superman from the get go, and Thanos simply watches and slaughters whoever wins? No, the thread says clearly that its Superman and Doomsday against Thanos, so thats how Id vote it as.

Lol what? Doomsday would go out of his way to take it to Superman. That's literally one of the things he was created to do.

And I'm fully aware people can put aside their differences. But do you think that after fighting crime all these years, and the things these people have done to him, Batman would try and help them in any way?

You think them being on a team makes Joker suddenly not crazy?

Scarecrow suddenly not a coward?

Ra's suddenly not a man who would kill millions to get his way?

If GOD told Batman he had to, Yes (actually Batman would be the most able and willing to side with his enemies, something that does happe in all types of media, quite frequently). Essentially the OP is GOD, and is forcing Team Batman to play nice, fighting and cooperate to the best of their abilities, to defeat Cap. Though considering you believe Doomsday would tackle Superman from the start, in a specifically made "Superman and Doomsday vs. Thanos" thread, then Im not surprised at all that youre arguing for this to happen here.

The OP is not God, and is not telling them directly what to do. The OP sets up a scenario that the characters find themselves in.

You're funny man.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
yeah just because they are a "team" doesn't mean they won't back stab each other. I don't re call there ever being something that equals teams can't dysfunction and not work well together.

As I mentioned before, I dont think Team Bats will be a well oiled machine, but they will work together, even for their own best interests, to the best of their abilities.

Best interests?

Joker's best interest is the humiliation/death of Batman.

Bane's is the humiliation/death of Batman, and destruction of Gotham.

Ra's is the destruction of Gotham, etc...

Going by that, they'd leave Batman so they could see what they wanted to happen.

Originally posted by KingD19
The OP is not God, and is not telling them directly what to do. The OP sets up a scenario that the characters find themselves in.

You're funny man.

The OP is forcing the two sides to fight (as all OPs do for any battle threads they make), in this case he is forcing Nolans Batman guys to band together to fight and defeat Capt America, I dont think anyone here has the ability to simply say Nah, Dont Feel Like It, Im Outta Here. 🙂

Originally posted by KingD19
Best interests?

Joker's best interest is the humiliation/death of Batman.

Bane's is the humiliation/death of Batman, and destruction of Gotham.

Ra's is the destruction of Gotham, etc...

Going by that, they'd leave Batman so they could see what they wanted to happen.

You just dont get it, do you..........

I get it just fine. You don't seem to. You seem to be misinterpreting how things actually work, and wanting them to work how you think they should.

So the OP says its Team Bats vs. Capt America, but you believe that Team Bats will either disband or fight each other, and you think IM misinterpreting what this thread is supposed to be about???