Originally posted by DTM
He also didnt make any mention they all started on a single rooftop of one building either. I assumed if the fight is taking place in an area as big as Gotham City, then they wouldnt all be starting within 20 feet of one another.Im not saying theyre 25 miles apart, Im not even suggesting Batman is going to go to the batcave and load up with Batwings and Batmobiles, but Im also not suggesting (unless the OP says as such) that they are all fighting nose to nose from the first seconds of the fight.
If the OP wishes to specify how far apart in Gotham City they all start, that would be great, otherwise Im assuming he wouldnt give us a Big City for them to fight in if theyre all fighting in a single alley or rooftop.
I find it odd that all your "assumptions" just happen to favor the team?
Fact is, unless stated otherwise by the OP, the sides are generally assumed to be within sight of each other at the start of the fight.
Personally, if the OP gives the sides a BIG CITY to fight in, it would be more likely to assume they arent starting right near one another from the get go, and are given some distance between them at the start. If this is incorrect, and the set up rules say they are within 50 feet of each other, then fine, Capt America wins more than not.
Would really like to hear what the OP had in mind for this when he created this thread though.
But unless they state otherwise, the normal forum rules are in effect. And as I said, the "Team" isn't a team at all. Batman has a reason to hate most of them, and distrust all of them.
Bane doesn't like Ra's.
Joker's liable to turn on all of them, etc...
They are all in character, and in character, they wouldn't work as a team.
Yes, but if theyre all put in a uncontrollable situation where they Have To work together (they have no choice but to fight their best to beat Cap here), they are all fully capable of doing so. Im not saying they would be a well oiled machine like the JLA or the Avengers, but they sure wouldnt be tripping over each others feet or denying to participate in solid working strategy. Heck, Heroes and Villains work together all the time in movies and comics when forced to fight a seperate threat to them both.
And again, if Forum Rules state they all start 30 feet from each other, then Cap wins. Though not sure why we would need to specify large arena to fight in if the fight is going to be fought and decided in such a small, limited space.
It also makes little sense to specify theyre fighting in a GIANT CITY if theyre all within 30 feet of each other from the get go.
And it would hardly take hours for anyone here to move around Gotham City, Im not saying one side is on one end of Gotham and the other is on the other side, I just assumed being given such a vast area for them to fight in that they wouldnt be starting right on top of each other.
Originally posted by DTM
Yes, but if theyre all put in a uncontrollable situation where they Have To work together (they have no choice but to fight their best to beat Cap here), they are all fully capable of doing so. Im not saying they would be a well oiled machine like the JLA or the Avengers, but they sure wouldnt be tripping over each others feet or denying to participate in solid working strategy. Heck, Heroes and Villains work together all the time in movies and comics when forced to fight a seperate threat to them both.
Joker has shown no capability to work well with anyone. He killed just about everybody he came in contact with, he even turned one of his goons into a bomb.
Bane has been tortured and beaten by Ra's his entire life, he will not work with him.
Joker killed Batman's girlfriend. Bane snapped his spine in half. Ra's was like family, then betrayed him. Scarecrow tried to kill his girlfriend. He'd more than likely refuse to work with any of them and try to take Cap on by himself.
And whether you think it makes sense or not, unless the OP states different, that's how it is.
So he needs to specify that they will actually try to work together to win, him saying that they are a team here and their goal is to beat Cap isnt enough, eh? OK then, if thats the case, youre right, they all turn on Batman and Catwoman, and Cap sits and watches and cleans up the mess. In character, thats what they would do.......unless of course they were here to battle and defeat another foe, which again I assumed was the entire point of this thread.
Also, you do realize Batman has worked with Bane, Ras and Joker in the comics before, so saying that them being capable of working together is ridiculous, is in fact even more ridiculous, really.
Originally posted by DTM
It also makes little sense to specify theyre fighting in a GIANT CITY if theyre all within 30 feet of each other from the get go.And it would hardly take hours for anyone here to move around Gotham City, Im not saying one side is on one end of Gotham and the other is on the other side, I just assumed being given such a vast area for them to fight in that they wouldnt be starting right on top of each other.
You said opposing sides of the city and seeing as the OP didn't give either team a vehicle, then yes...it would take hours just to find the person they're supposed to fight.
Originally posted by DTM
So he needs to specify that they will actually try to work together to win, him saying that they are a team here and their goal is to beat Cap isnt enough, eh? OK then, if thats the case, youre right, they all turn on Batman and Catwoman, and Cap sits and watches and cleans up the mess. In character, thats what they would do.......unless of course they were here to battle and defeat another foe, which again I assumed was the entire point of this thread.Also, you do realize Batman has worked with Bane, Ras and Joker in the comics before, so assuming they are capable of working together is ridiculous, is in fact even more ridiculous, really.
He specified that they are in character, meaning they act how they would act in the films. And in the films that's how they would act. Tell me I'm wrong. Even knowing they're up against Cap, most of them couldn't put their differences aside. I don't think Batman would even consider working with most of them.
And I read comics, I know what he's done. But this is the Movie Vs. Forum. Movies only, bud. 😮💨
No, it wouldnt. And Im pretty sure I mentioned several times that I assumed they WERE NOT on opppsing sides of the entire city, just enough space that they werent right on top of each other either (as again, if so, just have them fight in a warehouse, why have them fighting in such a vast area if the fight is going to take place in only a minute part of that area)
in this video Cap man handles these hydra soldiers and they all have higher tech weapons then any thing seen in any of nolans batman movies
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
in this video Cap man handles these hydra soldiers and they all have higher tech weapons then any thing seen in any of nolans batman movies
Its not the weaponry, its the people behind it that matters most, and Batmans team has it over generic Hydra soliders in all areas, with ease.
Originally posted by DTM
Its not the weaponry, its the people behind it that matters most, and Batmans team has it over generic Hydra soliders in all areas, with ease.
None of the Batman team even have projectile weaponry, and none of them are getting back up after hits like those. Because those men were armored and Cap still sent them flying like ragdolls.