Captain America vs. Nolan's Batman trilogy team

Started by KingD1917 pages

I believe that In Character as the OP states. They will not work so much as a team and more of a rough grouping of individuals who aren't effective at fighting someone on Cap's level, and that's at best. At worst, they'll turn on each other, which is what many of them would do in character, once again as the OP states.

Yes but in character is a sub-set of Team Bats vs. Cap, the in character ruling cant go against the Main Rule of this thread, which is Side X vs. Side Y.

Originally posted by DTM
OK, I didnt mean COMPLETELY OPPOSITE ENDS of Gotham (my bad for saying that initially), though I did assume they would at least be a mile or two away. I didnt realize standard rules meant they popped into these fights within 30 feet from each other, and have said (several times now) if thats the case then yes Cap wins, as that takes away most all of this teams advantages.

How would they find each other if they started a mile or two away?

They look, of course. 🙂 Sheesh, a mile or two is hardly NYC to LA. 🙂

Originally posted by DTM
They look, of course. 🙂 Sheesh, a mile or two is hardly NYC to LA. 🙂

Which one of these guys can see 1 to 2 miles away in a city setting?

Not to mention, in 2 miles there can be hundreds of buildings.

Oh I dont think theyd see one another from the get go, thats where the whole Theyll Look for one another comes in. 🙂 Nobodys saying theres a time limit to this fight, if it takes a little while for one side to stalk and find the other, so be it. Heck, thats one of Batmans primary skills, stalking his prey and picking the perfect place to strike.

Though if they all start within 30 feet, that advantage is nullified, so again, Cap wins (as Ive said about 5 times now).

Originally posted by DTM
As I mentioned before, I dont think Team Bats will be a well oiled machine, but they will work together, even for their own best interests, to the best of their abilities.

Im trying to have an open debate about it with you. Lets me and you do this your way. I will, for arguments sake, accept them at different parts of gotham and the team will work well together with batman as the leader. Set up the scenario for me (while keeping them in character) what do they do to win? I will try to give a logical counter and so on ect

Originally posted by DTM
Oh I dont think theyd see one another from the get go, thats where the whole Theyll Look for one another comes in. 🙂

So, you're just assuming that with all the directions they could go in, they'll just magically pick the correct direction?

Hey, Im not Batman, or Ras, or Bane, I dont have the brains to create the perfect plan, I do know that this is Batmans city, he knows each and every bit of it, as surely does everyone else on this team as well. Its nighttime, so the super stealthers get another nice bonus. They have fear toxin and KO darts to utilize, they have several master planners and strategists, they have several world class combants, they have several genius level intellects, and they have numbers. Im not smart enough to create the perfect plan, but to me, They Are, and have more advantages in them all combined than Cap has solo, hence my vote. 🙂

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, you're just assuming that with all the directions they could go in, they'll just magically pick the correct direction?

You act as if characters, lesser skilled than those on either side here, dont simply stalk their opponents in combat. 🙂 Again, this is a moot point, they all start right near each other, and Cap KOs everyone on the other side in 1 or 2 hits, Cap wins, all settled now.

Originally posted by DTM
Hey, Im not Batman, or Ras, or Bane, I dont have the brains to create the perfect plan, I do know that this is Batmans city, he knows each and every bit of it, as surely does everyone else on this team as well. Its nighttime, so the super stealthers get another nice bonus. They have fear toxin and KO darts to utilize, they have several master planners and strategists, they have several world class combants, they have several genius level intellects, and they have numbers. Im not smart enough to create the perfect plan, but to me, They Are, and have more advantages in them all combined than Cap has solo, hence my vote. 🙂

How does Batman knowing the city help him pick the right direction for the search?

Originally posted by KingD19
Lol, Bane never even displayed any stealth.

Funny, just saw several posts Id never seen before, this statement being on one of them.

You do realize that Bane actually out-stealthed Batman in TDKR. 🙂 Hes about as home in darkness as Batman is, if not more.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does Batman knowing the city help him pick the right direction for the search?

He would know the best places to be to be able to spot someone else, the best locations to give the best vantage points, etc. Clearly youre not denying Batmans ability to stealth and stalk, especially in a location he knows backwards and forwards like Gotham City, especially during nighttime.

Originally posted by DTM
He would know the best places to be to be able to spot someone else, the best locations to give the best vantage points, etc. Clearly youre not denying Batmans ability to stealth and stalk, especially in a location he knows backwards and forwards like Gotham City, especially during nighttime.

Unless he picks the right spot the first time out, he could at that vantage point for days before seeing Cap. so again, what is the point of putting them miles away from each other when the entire point of the thread is them fighting each pther.

Originally posted by DTM
Hey, Im not Batman, or Ras, or Bane, I dont have the brains to create the perfect plan, I do know that this is Batmans city, he knows each and every bit of it, as surely does everyone else on this team as well. Its nighttime, so the super stealthers get another nice bonus. They have fear toxin and KO darts to utilize, they have several master planners and strategists, they have several world class combants, they have several genius level intellects, and they have numbers. Im not smart enough to create the perfect plan, but to me, They Are, and have more advantages in them all combined than Cap has solo, hence my vote. 🙂
I understand why you say what you say but there isn't anything to back it up. Cap is tactical, he's stronger and faster with better, durability, reflexes, and reaction time then any of them combined. Not to mention his fighting skill completely out classes them in every way. So we are talking about a guy they won't land a punch on but even if they do its no more then a tickle really, a guy that will more then likely take them down in 1-2 hits each, a guy that was ok with killing the bad guy if he had to, a guy that can bank his shield and time it perfectly on the fly. that's all fact not up for opinion. Unless they get drastic and batman breaks character and they all lay down heavy fire at him from all angles they don't have a chance.....and like mentioned before the fear gas more then likely wont amount to anything but even if it does he just goes into a panic and cuts loose which mean they all die bloody.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Unless he picks the right spot the first time out, he could at that vantage point for days before seeing Cap. so again, what is the point of putting them miles away from each other when the entire point of the thread is them fighting each pther.

Well, likewise, what is the point of setting this 6 vs. 1 fight in a giant city, if its only going to be fought in an area the size of a single alley or rooftop, or if they all start right on top of one another from the get go. 🙂

Sorry guys, Im outta here, its time for bed for me. Its been fun (eh, kinda), enjoy the rest of this thread and all.

Originally posted by DTM
Well, likewise, what is the point of setting this 6 vs. 1 fight in a giant city, if its only going to be fought in an area the size of a single alley or rooftop, or if they all start right on top of one another from the get go. 🙂

Sorry guys, Im outta here, its time for bed for me. Its been fun (eh, kinda), enjoy the rest of this thread and all.

The point of starting them near each other is that this is a fight, which means that they have to be within fighting distance.

As opposed to putting the fighters miles away from each other and then hoping they manage to find each other.

🤨 like I said thread was determined on first page. Cap rapes. The reasons why have been stated a tiresome amout of times. The nolan team have nothing to offer to a super soldier of cap's caliber. He will practically be a knockout artist against these guys. He ate punches from red skull ( who was denting cap's metal shield) and kept coming. Ate lokis strikes and didn't slow down. Took a laser to the gut and kept coming. Same lasers that were knocking down stark IN full armor. Fast enough to catch that car that was going at least 30. Cleared that eight feet ish fence in one bound. Tossing full grown men 20 feet in the air with ease. Right before ironman came and used his shield as a relfector , cap was engaing in at least 10 aliens with LASERS. Far better equpied than nolans team. He cleaved through a heavily muscular alien arm with the shield like butter. Imagine what can happen to someone like joker. The dude is pure horse campared to these guys. Lol but its str8 jokes when u guys humor the fresh wave of ppl who argue on behalf of team human. Spite.

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