Team PC Validus Vs Team Mangog

Originally posted by abhilegend
Your opinion doesn't changes facts.

Im going by panel feats, Omega and SA Mangog are peers, it will end in a stalemate!!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
is anything in LOSH truly inspired work?

Originally posted by the Darkone
Im going by panel feats, Omega and SA Mangog are peers, it will end in a stalemate!!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mangog is beneath validus. What is mangog's best feat? Beating odin who at best a galaxy-buster in a shared feat? Validus while weakened fend off a being who was casually busting galaxies solo and destroyed a galaxy in the same arc. you mangog wankers were trying to sell mangog as being equal to omega for years and when it was reavealed there was someone even tougher than validus, you left validus and started chanting "Omega and mangog are peers, I said so". Mangog koed classic thor who is even less durable than post-crisis superman and Odin who wasn't that great durability wise. Validus and omega were flattening pre-crisis kryptonians and daxamites while not even paying attentions to them. There is no comparison here.

That your opinion, not fact. Classic Mangog is above PC Validus who got devolved by a Sky Father level being in PC Darkseid, and SA Mangog beat SA Odin who is a peer of PC Darkseid, Mangog defeated the rest of Asgard and weapons like they were gnats and it took SA Odin to kill himself to beat MAngog who feeds on hatred, magic, physical attacks who is most likely Avatar of Hate, Omega and Mangog are peers, Shaggy Man Valdis would be more like peers. It took PIS too take out Mangog same with Omega, these two will cancel each other out.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You'd have to read them first.

Originally posted by Galan007
What's with the attempt(s) at low-balling Omega by using scans that don't prove... Anything..?

*cracks knuckles*

Here pre-crisis Superboy effortlessly tows 13 planets (that I could count) behind him:
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Despite possessing THAT level of strength, Superboy states Validus is "a DOZEN" times more powerful than he is:
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Validus demonstrates said superiority by stomping Superboy (literally):
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Hell, Superboy almost KO'd himself just by running into Val.

Val also possessed energy attacks (mental lightning) so potent that, even in a drastically weakened state, he was able to fend off a Sun Eater:
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And back then, Sun Eaters were powerful enough to destroy entire galaxies. In fact, the one Val sent packing did destroy a galaxy.

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Now that Val's power level has been solidified, lets move on to Omega...

*cracks neck*

Both Mon-El and Superboy(of whom have BOTH battled Validus on several occasions) stated Omega was stronger. Omega then proceeds to own Mon-El with a single blow(a blow that would take Mon-El out of commission for multiple issues):
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Omega goes on to KO Superboy and Ultraman:
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Owns Colossal Boy:
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Tanks Wildfire's full force anti-matter energy attack:
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The ONLY way Omega could be stopped was by destroying the Miracle Machine-- a task Matter-Eater Lad alone was capable of.
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In short: pre-crisis characters of THAT magnitude barely even managed to knock Omega down, much less cause him any type of harm. Wtf is this team supposed to do to him?

I am going to dive into my "Reliquia Librorum". Then I will eat a sandwich, perhaps salami and provolone.

Then I will return.

fatass

Originally posted by Galan007
Here pre-crisis Superboy effortlessly tows 13 planets (that I could count) behind him:
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/14186670_v1.jpg]

Validus demonstrates said superiority by stomping Superboy (literally):
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/14186688_v3.jpg]
Hell, Superboy almost KO'd himself just by running into Val.

Did this spite thread not become a spite thread since last I checked?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Did this spite thread not become a spite thread since last I checked?

Originally posted by the Darkone
That your opinion, not fact. Classic Mangog is above PC Validus who got devolved by a Sky Father level being in PC Darkseid, and SA Mangog beat SA Odin who is a peer of PC Darkseid, Mangog defeated the rest of Asgard and weapons like they were gnats and it took SA Odin to kill himself to beat MAngog who feeds on hatred, magic, physical attacks who is most likely Avatar of Hate, Omega and Mangog are peers, Shaggy Man Valdis would be more like peers. It took PIS too take out Mangog same with Omega, these two will cancel each other out.

20 billion planets was an estimate based on the fact that he had to evacuate an entire galaxy.

I suppose he could have done it in multiple trips, but it still couldn't have taken that long so either each trip had a ton of planets or he made billions of trips in a short amount of time, making it a great speed feat.

...not to mention: he was able to cancel out inertial tidal forces, tectonic shifting and planetquakes as he moved the worlds; he neutralized extreme cold as he pulled each from its star; kept planetary atmospheres intact; totally bypassed any relativistic effects, OR, was able to produce a stable and consistent warp metric 100s of 1000s of miles long; and on and on...

Originally posted by Endless Mike
20 billion planets was an estimate based on the fact that he had to evacuate an entire galaxy.

I suppose he could have done it in multiple trips, but it still couldn't have taken that long so either each trip had a ton of planets or he made billions of trips in a short amount of time, making it a great speed feat.

Originally posted by Mindship
...not to mention: he was able to cancel out inertial tidal forces, tectonic shifting and planetquakes as he moved the worlds; he neutralized extreme cold as he pulled each from its star; kept planetary atmospheres intact; totally bypassed any relativistic effects, OR, was able to produce a stable and consistent warp metric 100s of 1000s of miles long; and on and on...

Inventing new powers on the fly was his specialty, after all

Originally posted by Endless Mike
That was more than 13 planets, notice how the line of planets curves off into the background to be too small to be seen.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, I did that because Carver made me do it.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
"Strikes with the power of 1000 H-bombs."

I guess it's no different than LT making a star go nova and calling that his ultimate judgement-- or the totality of a Guardian's power being compared to "a dozen hurricanes." Silly stuff.

Originally posted by Galan007
Gotta love the power descriptions in silver age comics. In one scene you have Superboy throwing planets and stars around like ping pong balls. In another scene you have his power being compared to 1,000 H-bombs.

I guess it's no different than LT making a star go nova and calling that his ultimate judgement-- or the totality of a Guardian's power being compared to "a dozen hurricanes." Silly stuff.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Silver Age Mangog Abstract/Sky Father level
Destroyer Sky Father level and beyond
Trion Juggernaut High Trans level
HOTM Hulk High Trans level
Thor w/ power High Trans level

by no means a stomp for team one, at his peak Silver age Mangog was 25 ft tall 35,000 lbs and was powers stated to be up their with Galactus, and he defeated a elite Sky Father in Odin, also feeds on hatred, physical contact. Destroyer even gives Odin to pause, and it Disintegration beam can kill sky father level beings. Team 2 can split or get more wins!!

Destroyer has tussled with normal Thor many times. The fact their fights lasted so long shows that Destroyer isn't a Skyfather at all but a trans.

Mangog lacks physical power to even harm anyone here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because he was the one who created validus. None of these guys possess reality warping and that's why that feat is meaningless here. Its not like mangog fared any better against Odin once he actually used his powers.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Odin resurrecting a race of beings as an indirect way of cutting Mangog off from his power, amidst constant reminders that Odin cannot defeat Mangog in battle, is hardly a combat feat that is going to help in a forum match.