Sids, Dooku, Vader vs Malgus, Revan, Bane

Started by Pessimystic17 pages

Or are you going to manufacture a quote saying Orbalisks have no weakness to electricity?

His armour would actually be more of a liability than a strength here. Whether it's Sidious or Dooku who does the frying, Bane is toast.

Again, it wasn't just a random burst of lightning, the intensity was massive.

Well Dooku vs. Yoda aside, how is Banite scaling a tiny factor?

Sidious solos solidly.

Well that's down to the fact that the actual demonstrations of a Banite Sith overthrowing their masters haven't exactly demonstrated some immense generational growth. In practice, whilst the growth may have occurred, I'm not convinced it's as great as others would claim.

Originally posted by Pessimystic
Or are you going to manufacture a quote saying Orbalisks have no weakness to electricity?

His armour would actually be more of a liability than a strength here. Whether it's Sidious or Dooku who does the frying, Bane is toast.

Bane has a lightsaber to block lightning..... That didn't stop being a thing. 😬

But yeah, Dooku's lightning is crap compared to Bane's. Theres no evidence that Dooku'#s lightning is of sufficient intensity to destroy the Orbalisks.

You're also forgetting that the Orbalisks absorbed over a million volts of electricity earlier in the book. He was hit by multiple attacks that each could fry a Bantha.

Dooku competed with yoda, a pre-prime yoda. As of his prime Yoda is ~ Sidious who choked Dooku from across the galaxy(holistic intent is obvious) and Anakin who beat him incredibly decisively pre-prime.

That said, Jedi Dooku was > Jedi Revan despite not having yet underwent a massive power growth when he turned to the darkside. Vader has better feats/scaling then anyone on team 2, and Sidious can force Vader bend on his knees from across the galaxy.

Bane isn't up to snuff vs anyone on the other team.

Team 1 rofl stomps here.

Jedi Dooku isn't > Jedi Revan, rofl.

Prodigal Revan >> SF!Malak >>> Karness Muur ~/> Vader > Dooku

Originally posted by AncientPower
Jedi Dooku isn't > Jedi Revan, rofl.

Prodigal Revan >> SF!Malak >>> Karness Muur ~/> Vader > Dooku

kek

Jedi Dooku > Jedi Revan >> SF Malak >>> Exar

Originally posted by Nephthys
But yeah, Dooku's lightning is crap compared to Bane's.

Based on what? Without his power amped through the roof, what lightning feats of Bane's could Dooku not replicate?

Despite only using one hand (generating less power) over a long distance, Yoda still had difficulty deflecting Dooku's lightning.

And then it was deflected into a wall and barely chipped the rock. Banes lightning can incinerate people to ash, disintegrate various materials and I just gave you a way to scale it compared to a million volts.

Dooku can barely kill people with his.

Killed Ventress tho?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
kek

Jedi Dooku > Jedi Revan >> SF Malak >>> Exar

If only that quote means what you think it means.

Oh and nothing suggests Malak > Kun, in fact precisely the opposite is made absolutely clear.

But feel free to CaV me on Exar Kun vs. Jedi Dooku, if you're so confident.

Originally posted by FIFAPL4YER
Killed Ventress tho?

When she wasn't defending herself. He's hit her with it in other cases when he was trying to kill her and it merely stunned her temporarily.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If only that quote means what you think it means.

Oh and nothing suggests Malak > Kun, in fact precisely the opposite is made absolutely clear.

But feel free to CaV me on Exar Kun vs. Jedi Dooku, if you're so confident.

oh snap

i said something against exar 😮

I mean you brought it on yourself by agreeing with kbro.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Well that's down to the fact that the actual demonstrations of a Banite Sith overthrowing their masters haven't exactly demonstrated some immense generational growth. In practice, whilst the growth may have occurred, I'm not convinced it's as great as others would claim.

So a significant fraction of Banite apprentices overthrew their masters in direct combat, and this probably happened 1) consistently (e.g. master rarely wins) and 2) before the apprentice's prime. That alone is a large power chain, and then we know that even those apprentices who replaced their masters via other means were stated to be more powerful.

I mean, even the last three of the Banite line had large differences in power (Tenebrous -> Plagueis -> Sidious) such that even RotS Sidious would absolutely destroy Tenebrous.

Don't forget that Tenebrous had trained Plagueis for a human lifetime by the start of DP, so unless he was training Hego in secret while still being apprenticed to someone else, then it's likely that Rugess Nome is also leaps and bounds ahead of his predecessor.

Sidious solos, yeah