Star Trek Into Darkness

Originally posted by -Pr-
Well yeah, they aren't successful because they're great Trek movies, even if they have some really solid Trek homages.

They're popular because they're flashy popcorn movies with good looking actors that are actually made well, even with the plot holes. And they were nice enough to give the franchise a bit of oomph that it had been lacking since the last tv show went off the air.

I am hoping the second one is better than the first, though.

The second is way better than the first and yeah, a polished, sexier model of the original series is naturally gonna work. It's a Hollywood film based on a 60's series.
JJ is an impressive visionary, he knows what works on screen and how to please audiences.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think they were to me anyways. I am glad these film makers agree since its distancing itself from the older Star Trek. That's why I am on board due to action and it being far more entertaining than the original series.

Well the original series was made in the 60's. They had different sensibilities and obviously less tech to work with. I love the original series but I'm a nostalgia fan.

I read somewhere JJ didn't hardly watch any Star Trek before taking on the project.
But he did a great job of modernizing the characters. The fact that he still uses the same fashion sense of the era and the little gizmos and the sound effects they make.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The second is way better than the first and yeah, a polished, sexier model of the original series is naturally gonna work. It's a Hollywood film based on a 60's series.
JJ is an impressive visionary, he knows what works on screen and how to please audiences.

Well the original series was made in the 60's. They had different sensibilities and obviously less tech to work with. I love the original series but I'm a nostalgia fan.

I read somewhere JJ didn't hardly watch any Star Trek before taking on the project.
But he did a great job of modernizing the characters. The fact that he still uses the same fashion sense of the era and the little gizmos and the sound effects they make.

As long as it stays on this course I will enjoy the new and improved Star Treks.

Originally posted by the ninjak
The second is way better than the first and yeah, a polished, sexier model of the original series is naturally gonna work. It's a Hollywood film based on a 60's series.
JJ is an impressive visionary, he knows what works on screen and how to please audiences.

Well the original series was made in the 60's. They had different sensibilities and obviously less tech to work with. I love the original series but I'm a nostalgia fan.

I read somewhere JJ didn't hardly watch any Star Trek before taking on the project.
But he did a great job of modernizing the characters. The fact that he still uses the same fashion sense of the era and the little gizmos and the sound effects they make.

i'd call it more a "dumbed down" version, but it does the job well.

glad to hear it's good, I like cumberbatch.

Originally posted by quanchi112
the original series is boring and not appealing to the masses.

The Original series and movies were very appealing to the masses. Everyone used to love Trek back in the day.

But since all the spin off series, it became more of a cult thing.

The new films have done a great job of bringing back the Original Crew to mass appeal.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The Original series and movies were very appealing to the masses. Everyone used to love Trek back in the day.

But since all the spin off series, it became more of a cult thing.

The new films have done a great job of bringing back the Original Crew to mass appeal.

New films>>old films. By far and the makes agree its a wise move.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
The Original series and movies were very appealing to the masses. Everyone used to love Trek back in the day.

But since all the spin off series, it became more of a cult thing.

The new films have done a great job of bringing back the Original Crew to mass appeal.

Pretty much. It didn't become a huge phenomenon by accident. And this was even before TNG.

Movie makers agree with me not you. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movie makers agree with me not you. 🙂

Star Trek hasn't needed a reboot until ST: Enterprise reared it's ugly head.

And now that it has happened you're stating how "superior" it is to everything else before it.

You wouldn't have these 2 movies if it wasn't for what came before it.

It's nothing more than the Original series with a new pair of fake **** and a make-over.
And sacrifices all the scientific phenomena, theory and sheer imagination with fast plot devices.

In the end the new movies are a hot stripper dressed in a Star Trek theme. And I'll be damned if I don't pay for a lap dance. And audiences want a show too.

But the new films don't compare to what I got from all the ST Universe. Not by a long shot.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Movie makers agree with me not you. 🙂

Agree with what? Having more action now? That's just a standard demand of modern fantasy movies to be filled with action and special effects. Nothing to do with the Originals not being loved back in their day.

Oh and the series was made in the late 60's. But Trek films were pretty big through the 80's.

Btw many people still feel Wrath of Khan is the best Trek film.

I think it needs to be remembered that the new movies don't detract from the original series at all. They might not have the same "human interest", but they substitute that by appealing to a wider audience.

after voyager and enterprise, star trek needed a bit of cpr, and it got it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think they were to me anyways. I am glad these film makers agree since its distancing itself from the older Star Trek. That's why I am on board due to action and it being far more entertaining than the original series.

"Distancing"? 😂 Abrams clearly pays homage to the OS.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Star Trek hasn't needed a reboot until ST: Enterprise reared it's ugly head.

And now that it has happened you're stating how "superior" it is to everything else before it.

You wouldn't have these 2 movies if it wasn't for what came before it.

It's nothing more than the Original series with a new pair of fake **** and a make-over.
And sacrifices all the scientific phenomena, theory and sheer imagination with fast plot devices.

In the end the new movies are a hot stripper dressed in a Star Trek theme. And I'll be damned if I don't pay for a lap dance. And audiences want a show too.

But the new films don't compare to what I got from all the ST Universe. Not by a long shot.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Agree with what? Having more action now? That's just a standard demand of modern fantasy movies to be filled with action and special effects. Nothing to do with the Originals not being loved back in their day.

Oh and the series was made in the late 60's. But Trek films were pretty big through the 80's.

Btw many people still feel Wrath of Khan is the best Trek film.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Distancing"? 😂 Abrams clearly pays homage to the OS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Article clearly says less Trekkie. I approve anything being less Trekkie and apparently so does the rest of the world. 🙂

Once again you didn't read the article, it says "might be" 🙂 Anyhow.

That non sequitur aside, Abrams isn't "distancing" himself from the OS, when he's clearly paying homage to it with easter eggs and such. You'd know this, if you ever watched the original series 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Once again you didn't read the article, it says "might be" 🙂 Anyhow.

That non sequitur aside, Abrams isn't "distancing" himself from the OS, when he's clearly paying homage to it with easter eggs and such. You'd know this, if you ever watched the original series 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he won't piss on the older generation nor should he but changing the formula into less Trekkie is a win win. Smart move. I'm always right.

Glad you agree that he isn't "distancing" his films from the OS, that was a silly claim made from ignorance 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
Glad you agree that he isn't "distancing" his films from the OS, that was a silly claim made from ignorance 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He abandoned the Trekkie formula and is reinventing it with more action than stale anti climactic movies.

I really enjoyed his first ST film; I expect to enjoy his second.

He's not "distancing" himself from the series though, that was a silly comment of yours, glad you saw the error of your ways 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
I really enjoyed his first ST film; I expect to enjoy his second.

He's not "distancing" himself from the series though, that was a silly comment of yours, glad you saw the error of your ways 🙂

Far better than the previous movies and the makers agree with me. I'm on fire.