Frankly it's only deluded people who make claims directly contradicting what the comic depicts, what the characters state and what the writer says he was depicting in the story.
It's nice to see the butthurt has been lasting and the excuses and special pleading have been richly hypocritical, which is an added bonus.
I'd say that WWH vs sentry WAS definitely sentrys all out ( since it was flat out stated in panel he was going all out), PRIOR to the bendis void molecule man stuff. Considering that he had many incredible feats even prior to the molecule man stuff ( like the genis fight) The fact that WWH burned him out is super impressive. After that though, he clearly went up a level after discovering new abilities and I certainly wouldn't make determinations about his new power level based off of the WWH fight.
Originally posted by ares834
TBH, I tend to think it lies in between both your points. Sentry did go all out against Hulk. However, at the time he wasn't at his strongest as he had yet to discover his "Void" powers.So no, it wasn't the Sentry's peak, but he was still going all out.
excellent!
To add. Sentry's power level is based off his mental state. So he could be using all of his will to win but his mental state is not at optimal levels. We clearly seen Sentry operate at levels above what we saw in WWH. But again, Sentry was not holding back (he was just not at his strongest).
Sentry's MM feat was impressive, except for the fact that MM was insane and has been jobbing a fair bit in recent times.
The insanity is the important part because matter manipulation is basically a mental skill requiring coherence of thought, MM simply doesn't demonstrate any at all.
The fact that Sentry had new powers he did not know of (or understand) does not mean that he had more juice (energy) that he could have brought to the fight with Hulk. All it means is that he might have tried matter manipulation (and Hulk naturally has form resisting and reforming from such attacks, in his weaker incarnations).
On top of this, you have the simple fact that Hulk was holding back whilst taking all of Sentry's attacks. And that when Hulk actually began to operate at a level that tapped into more of his powers, planets and dimensions were destroyed.
The argument remains the same, Sentry emptied out all his reserves attacking Hulk. Hulk was probably operating at a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1% of his own reserves.
Originally posted by janus77
Sentry's MM feat was impressive, except for the fact that MM was insane and has been jobbing a fair bit in recent times.The insanity is the important part because matter manipulation is basically a mental skill requiring coherence of thought, MM simply doesn't demonstrate any at all.
The fact that Sentry had new powers he did not know of (or understand) does not mean that he had more juice (energy) that he could have brought to the fight with Hulk. All it means is that he might have tried matter manipulation (and Hulk naturally has form resisting and reforming from such attacks, in his weaker incarnations).
On top of this, you have the simple fact that Hulk was holding back whilst taking all of Sentry's attacks. And that when Hulk actually began to operate at a level that tapped into more of his powers, planets and dimensions were destroyed.
The argument remains the same, Sentry emptied out all his reserves attacking Hulk. Hulk was probably operating at a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1% of his own reserves.
Comics stated clearly that Sentry's power level is based off his mental state.
That means he will appear weaker than other times (although he is giving his all).
So we can either apply the theory that Sentry draws his power from an outside source or just simply accept that Sentry's power/energy wasn't as complete as could have been the moment he fought Hulk.
IMO, WWH holding back simply means he didn't go WB.
Because if WWH stop holding back means he would go WB
Originally posted by Mindset
Based on the statement, so does Sentry...What's the difference?
The difference is, its telling us that Sentry can draw power from any source...doesn't mean he is gathering a universe worth of power, he can just use anything to pull it from. Hulk on the other hand is gathering power from an entire universe. Ok, wait, I see what you mean. F.U mindset.
Originally posted by carver9👆
The difference is, its telling us that Sentry can draw power from any source...doesn't mean he is gathering a universe worth of power, he can just use anything to pull it from. Hulk on the other hand is gathering power from an entire universe. Ok, wait, I see what you mean. F.U mindset.
Sentry, like Surfer, can use just about anything to amp himself. There are a lot of characters that can do that (within the herald tier). I don't see how that makes Sentry special.
The whole thing with Hulk on the other hand, is that his mass and energy is extra-dimensional in origins. It's literally backed by a whole universe, somewhere.
It's like claiming that Surfer has equal energy stores to Galactus, just because he can amp from the universe around him.
Originally posted by zopzop
If the New God Tech is so far beyond Galactus' that Tyrant's technopathy will not work against it. Otherwise they don't.
A hungry Galactus and Silver Surfer rolled over Darkseid and Apokalips in The Hunger. It's not canon but it's something to think about. I don't see how New God technology is even on par with Galactus' tech, let alone superior.