Are the Republican Party even wanted anymore?

Between John Boehner and his flunkies obstructing a reasonable fiscal cliff deal that would benefit most Americans and putting the US economy at risk several times to benefit the top 2%, Senators voting down a disability rights bill, and now Michigan politicians funded by the Koch brothers trying to take away union rights in an attempt to cut off Democratic funding, I have to ask. Are they needed in US politics? They have done nothing progressive in a very long time and seem to be hellbent on waging war against the majority of Americans it is supposed to serve in defense of the wealthy elite. Their conservative desire to halt moderate progress is crippling our country, and they are the cause. I know we only have to wait until November '14 to get these bastards out, but we can already tell they are spiteful enough to leave and destroy the US with it since they can't rule it. How evil...

Republicans = bad

Originally posted by Lestov16
Between John Boehner and his flunkies obstructing a reasonable fiscal cliff deal that would benefit most Americans and putting the US economy at risk several times to benefit the top 2%, Senators voting down a disability rights bill, and now Michigan politicians funded by the Koch brothers trying to take away union rights in an attempt to cut off Democratic funding, I have to ask. Are they needed in US politics? They have done nothing progressive in a very long time and seem to be hellbent on waging war against the majority of Americans it is supposed to serve in defense of the wealthy elite. Their conservative desire to halt moderate progress is crippling our country, and they are the cause. I know we only have to wait until November '14 to get these bastards out, but we can already tell they are [b]spiteful enough to leave and destroy the US with it since they can't rule it. How evil... [/B]

Well you're classifying a whole group of people here.

I don't know enough about it to say the Republicans are unnecessary. It would take a hell of a lot to convince me that an entire party that has been resilient for the better part of a century is now outdated. Then saying they're evil is a whole other ball game. I am friends with a lot of Republicans, but I am a democrat myself...in real life.

My online Persona is the opposite, the definition of a scheming Anarchist bastard. Dolos manipulates the stock market, using his genius to predict which stocks will go up and down at precise times to quickly gain control of the global economy and crash the monetary system.

Originally posted by Dolos
It would take a hell of a lot to convince me that an entire party that has been resilient for the better part of a century is now outdated.

Why would being old make it harder to convince you that they're out of date?

I forgot also, they actually ran that turd Mitt Romney, who ran a campaign based entirely on lies and fear-mongering. I don't know what's worse: the fact that he actually had a majority in some states (even if you hate Obama, there is no possible way you could see Romney leading this country's path into a positive outcome) or the fact that Republicans thought we were stupid enough not to see through his bullshit facade.

And it's even more hilarious because Romney was the best they could come up with, and the runner-up, Rick Santorum, is now working with some conspiracy/scam website, Rick Perry releasing horrifically homophobic ads, and all the other cretins from the primaries.

My question is why is it this way? How did we allow our Congress turn into our worst enemy? Who is voting these people in? Why can't we produce better politicians? The Republican Party has actually dissolved into Tammany Hall, with Boehner serving as Tweed.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I forgot also, they actually ran that turd Mitt Romney, who ran a campaign based entirely on lies and fear-mongering. I don't know what's worse: the fact that he actually had a majority in some states (even if you [b]hate Obama, there is no possible way you could see Romney leading this country's path into a positive outcome) or the fact that Republicans thought we were stupid enough not to see through his bullshit facade.

And it's even more hilarious because Romney was the best they could come up with, and the runner-up, Rick Santorum, is now working with some conspiracy/scam website, Rick Perry releasing horrifically homophobic ads, and all the other cretins from the primaries.

My question is why is it this way? How did we allow our Congress turn into our worst enemy? Who is voting these people in? Why can't we produce better politicians? The Republican Party has actually dissolved into Tammany Hall, with Boehner serving as Tweed. [/B]

I just kinda happened. Certain Republicans made a few bad choices, and so they must face their karma.

Could have happened to democrats. It's not what party you're in, it's who makes smarter decisions with what they have. Sometimes you need both, that's why I think this country will endure it's toughest phase yet, because we want Republicans, and we want Democrats - they're showing signs of cooperating, of compromising. That's a lot like joining forces. They are weaker apart than they are together, because both parties are lacking in certain areas, and we aren't really in a position where we can use one without the other anymore.

Hate to go against the doctrine of Killing Them Softly, but business has become hyper-diplomatic. The only problem is the Republicans who are extremely aggressive aren't cooperating, but we need them as well because businesses are becoming more cut-throat and competitive as well.

Originally posted by Flyattractor

Obama will go down as the Einstein of politics. The one who tried to unite the Republicans and the Democrats, giving the US something it's never had before, cooperation. A new theory that when tested proves successful in running things.

Man. You didn't drink the Kool Aid. You got an IV and a 8 ball.

Originally posted by Dolos
Obama will go down as the Einstein of politics. The one who tried to unite the Republicans and the Democrats...

so he gets to be einstein by failing to achieve it?

i think he was an idiot for trying in the first place.

This Dolos guy is creeping me out a little.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
so he gets to be einstein by failing to achieve it?

i think he was an idiot for trying in the first place.

I feel ya.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why would being old make it harder to convince you that they're out of date?

I think the word "resilient" is the keyword in his post that answers your question. Unlike previous parties that faded from the American Political Dynamic, the GOP is still getting elected in significant numbers. At least, that's how I read that portion of his post. I could be wrong in my interpretation.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I forgot also, they actually ran that turd Mitt Romney, who ran a campaign based entirely on lies and fear-mongering. I don't know what's worse: the fact that he actually had a majority in some states (even if you [b]hate Obama, there is no possible way you could see Romney leading this country's path into a positive outcome) or the fact that Republicans thought we were stupid enough not to see through his bullshit facade.

And it's even more hilarious because Romney was the best they could come up with, and the runner-up, Rick Santorum, is now working with some conspiracy/scam website, Rick Perry releasing horrifically homophobic ads, and all the other cretins from the primaries. [/B]

I agree, Lestov. You are putting into words what I was unable during the election.

Originally posted by Lestov16
My question is why is it this way? How did we allow our Congress turn into our worst enemy? Who is voting these people in? Why can't we produce better politicians? The Republican Party has actually dissolved into Tammany Hall, with Boehner serving as Tweed.

You must realize that there are GOP peeps that are more liberal than many Dems. There are some GOP members that are moderates and have more sense than the majority of the GOP and Dems. Same goes for the Dems. There are reasonable, informed, and educated members in most political parties.

yes, nearly 50% of the nation still voted for them in the federal election

Originally posted by Dolos
Obama will go down as the Einstein of politics. The one who tried to unite the Republicans and the Democrats, giving the US something it's never had before, cooperation. A new theory that when tested proves successful in running things.

That's absolute bullshit! Obozo is one of the biggest dividers in American history. He's just as guilty as the Republicans, who I'm not defending, on the fiscal cliff issue. Republican+ Democrat =Republicrat, they are both different sides of the same coin. My conscious is clear....I voted for Gary Johnson.

Dividers? Why should he and the majority of the nation have to compromise and sacrifice their basic needs so the top 2% can profit more than they already exorbitantly do. That's the disgusting thing about it. The 2% don't even need to worry about the tax hike affecting their overall wealth and living conditions, but Republicans still won't compromise, out of a mix of greed and spite.

Obama shouldn't have to compromise a damn thing. The plans he and his administration have been putting on the table would undoubtedly benefit everyone across the board, hell, even Warren Buffett came up with a reasonable plan, but the Republicans are being unreasonable and are staunchly supporting 2% of the population, at the detriment of the rest. They are the ones who need to fold, as they are clearly in the wrong here, and Obama shouldn't have to adjust his plan so that the livelihood of middle-class workers can be sacrificed, even a little, so a wealthy CEO can make even more money than they need. It's an utterly senseless sacrifice and the Republican Party should be ashamed of themselves for demanding it.

I think this is the point where business-influencing-government has become more blatant than ever before, as now basic rights are being attacked purely for profit. Our economy is actually being held hostage, for the second time in 4 years, and for literally no logical reason (as billionaire CEOs do not need the smidgens more that they would pay in taxes).

I'm just honestly shocked that riots aren't breaking out to get these people out of office. Just like Oliver North said, even after the Republican party shot down all attempts at economic reform in 2011 and then ran a completely bullshit presidential campaign, almost half the nation still voted for these people. Why? Why? Why?Why? Why?.....(ad infinitum)

Originally posted by Lestov16
Obama shouldn't have to compromise a damn thing. The plans he and his administration have been putting on the table would undoubtedly benefit everyone across the board, hell, even Warren Buffett came up with a reasonable plan, but the Republicans are being unreasonable and are staunchly supporting 2% of the population, at the detriment of the rest. They are the ones who need to fold, as they are [b]clearly in the wrong here, and Obama shouldn't have to adjust his plan so that the livelihood of middle-class workers can be sacrificed, even a little, so a wealthy CEO can make even more money than they need. It's an utterly senseless sacrifice and the Republican Party should be ashamed of themselves for demanding it.
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Do you have any examples? Both of the Obama stuff and GOP stuff you refer to in this section.

For example, the original "Obamacare" wasn't enough, if I remember correctly. It wasn't a single payer or UHC system. I have a hard time recalling anything "perfect" that Obama has done or proposed. It is hardly GOP vs. Democrat that you make it seem. At times, it is difficult to differentiate the two parties, especially if you are a foreigner from another nation: they both seem like a huge mess with neither party being very much different than the other.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Dividers? Why should he and the majority of the nation have to compromise and sacrifice their basic needs so the top 2% can profit more than they already exorbitantly do. That's the disgusting thing about it. The 2% don't even need to worry about the tax hike affecting their overall wealth and living conditions, but Republicans still won't compromise, out of a mix of greed and spite.

Obama shouldn't have to compromise a damn thing. The plans he and his administration have been putting on the table would undoubtedly benefit everyone across the board, hell, even Warren Buffett came up with a reasonable plan, but the Republicans are being unreasonable and are staunchly supporting 2% of the population, at the detriment of the rest. They are the ones who need to fold, as they are [b]clearly in the wrong here, and Obama shouldn't have to adjust his plan so that the livelihood of middle-class workers can be sacrificed, even a little, so a wealthy CEO can make even more money than they need. It's an utterly senseless sacrifice and the Republican Party should be ashamed of themselves for demanding it.

I think this is the point where business-influencing-government has become more blatant than ever before, as now basic rights are being attacked purely for profit. Our economy is actually being held hostage, for the second time in 4 years, and for literally no logical reason (as billionaire CEOs do not need the smidgens more that they would pay in taxes).

I'm just honestly shocked that riots aren't breaking out to get these people out of office. Just like Oliver North said, even after the Republican party shot down all attempts at economic reform in 2011 and then ran a completely bullshit presidential campaign, almost half the nation still voted for these people. Why? Why? Why?Why? Why?.....(ad infinitum) [/B]

Because compromise is what makes government and our society in general work. You prove my point, there's no difference between either major party.

Originally posted by dadudemon

At times, it is difficult to differentiate the two parties, especially if you are a foreigner from another nation: they both seem like a huge mess with neither party being very much different than the other.

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