The High Herald Battle Royal

Originally posted by PhilosophÃ_a
Let's make it count, if we're really tackling it.

We can agree on, say, 3 judges that we consider objective, and then do what we do here, only with an end game.

And maybe I'm wrong, but this doesn't strike me as being a very complicated issue. I was expecting a paragraph or two and a scan or two.

Disregard the peanut gallery, as amusing as they are. Just say your piece.

Originally posted by ODG
No thanks. I was inviting a discussion of it as you seemed eager to discuss it and there being no takers.

And maybe I'm wrong, but this doesn't strike me as being a very complicated issue. I was expecting a paragraph or two and a scan or two.

Disregard the peanut gallery, as amusing as they are. Just say your piece.

I'm tired of the same old, to put it bluntly.

You'll do the same thing. I'll do the same thing.

The only difference is that there will be judges.

What's the problem?

DCnU Captain Atom FTW.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I have limited time as it is, going back and forth with no end in sight other than 'one of us stops posting, eventually' isn't something I'm eager to partake in.

I'm tired of the same old, to put it bluntly.

You'll do the same thing. I'll do the same thing.

Originally posted by Philosophía
The only difference is that there will be judges.

Originally posted by Philosophía
What's the problem?

Originally posted by ODG
Who said there'd be no end in sight? I similarly am tired of endless back and forths. Probably more than you as I've had to deal with it far more often.

You won't stop and say "I was wrong, you were right". The same way I won't. At that point, it won't be a matter of arguments, but a matter of 'who gets bored of having the last word'. We're not new on this forum, don't feign ignorance.

That's wasting both our time.

Limiting this discussion is the best option.

Originally posted by ODG
K, let's get Galan007, srankmissingnin and Nihilist and the only thing that'll be settled is which one of us has p1ssed them off more.

[despite our differences and the fact that he hates me, I'd probably take Galan as a judge]

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's obviously not, just the same way thor isn't a skyfather level being for absorbing a galaxy leveling null bomb or superman for absorbing maggedon's anti-sun or Etrigan and Orion contributing 1/5th of power to destroy a reality or such. High feats aren't exclusive to thor and surfer you know and citing a character's high end feats to promote him to number 1 here while other guys have better feats isn't beneficial for any character here.

Mjolnir shattered from channeling thor's god force, sliced in half by destroyer, perrikus, shattered upon striking bor and such. Low showings are there for any character.

But Thor has dozens of high-end crazy absorption feats. They aren't outliers, they're the norm. It's not cherry-picking, it's what the character is consistently portrayed as.

srug

Originally posted by Digi
But Thor has dozens of high-end crazy absorption feats.

Head trauma absorption, you mean?

😈

Originally posted by Philosophía
Good. Then let's have someone decide who is right.

You won't stop and say "I was wrong, you were right". The same way I won't. At that point, it won't be a matter of arguments, but a matter of 'who gets bored of having the last word'. We're not new on this forum, don't feign ignorance.

That's wasting both our time.

Limiting this discussion is the best option.

Sorry if you got the wrong impression, I was merely interested in hearing what you've got to say and it seemed like you wouldn't waste your breath unless someone committed to giving you an honest response.

Originally posted by Philosophía
You really think there aren't 3 people on this site who can make a somewhat objective argument-based decision?

Originally posted by Philosophía
[despite our differences and the fact that he hates me, I'd probably take Galan as a judge]

ahah

Seriously, go get raped, Galan007. sneer

Good then it's decided then. 3 posts each. SETTLE IT HERE!

What was the bone of contention again?

Whether or not Superman can speed blitz and KO both Thor and Surfer before they can even react.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Whether or not Superman can speed blitz and KO both Thor and Surfer before they can even react.

Good lord.

Originally posted by ODG
I wouldn't. Galan007 can go phuck himself up his smelly butt with Mindset's chubb. uhuh

Originally posted by dmills
Good then it's decided then. 3 posts each. SETTLE IT HERE!

What was the bone of contention again?

Ok, how about this. Abhi's Superman wins. Thor wins for everyone else, based on my earlier comments. Cpt. Atom gets energy-boned so hard, he time jumps to after the universe exists and explodes into nonexistence. The rest disintegrate in Thor's incompehensibly massive absorption redirection.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Head trauma absorption, you mean?

😈

That too.

fdog

These far out scenarios involving galaxy busting energy redirections, spontaneous red sun radiation weakness detection and ridiculous speed blitzes etc need to stop 😠

BTW. Nova Prime wins by opening stargates in everyone's head.

Originally posted by -Pr-

You could say the same thing about Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter (to a lesser extent), or any number of heroes.

Superman isn't one of the top heralds for nothing; he has the feats that say he can hang with Surfer for a long enough period.

That's like comparing Superman to Hyperion. Both have similar powers but Superman is clearly more powerful. I would put Superman in the top 5 most powerful herald-class beings for sure. I just think the Surfer is superior. He's not a good match-up for Supes. Thor is actually better suited to battle the Surfer due to Mjolnir, IMO.

Originally posted by Dampyre
I would put Superman in the top 5 most powerful herald-class beings for sure. I just think the Surfer is superior. He's not a good match-up for Supes. Thor is actually better suited to battle the Surfer due to Mjolnir, IMO.

^

Thor is better suited for Surfer, don't understand why anyone would disagree with this. I would still give Surfer the majority against Thor...since Surfer rebirth, Surfer has been a freaking monster.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor is better suited for Surfer, don't understand why anyone would disagree with this. I would still give Surfer the majority against Thor...since Surfer rebirth, Surfer has been a freaking monster.

He also got bloodied by Thor.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yep.
Cap has absorbed an entire universe worth of energy. Even mjolnir isn't superior to that.
I thought it was pre-flashpoint superman.

Please stop trying to portray feats like that.

Originally posted by Dampyre
That's like comparing Superman to Hyperion. Both have similar powers but Superman is clearly more powerful. I would put Superman in the top 5 most powerful herald-class beings for sure. I just think the Surfer is superior. He's not a good match-up for Supes. Thor is actually better suited to battle the Surfer due to Mjolnir, IMO.

And that's fine. I'm just saying that Superman isn't as outmatched against Surfer as some might think, and is capable of beating him.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor is better suited for Surfer, don't understand why anyone would disagree with this. I would still give Surfer the majority against Thor...since Surfer rebirth, Surfer has been a freaking monster.

Nobody has disagreed with it.