How close could thor come to bench pressing the earth once?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
That isn't to bad considering this.

Notice that even on panel it doesn't show still the full length or the end of the serpent so it still matches that the length can conceivably wrap around the planet as seen prior.

And that's the kicker I imagine. In all the other ones it doesn't show the ending part of the tail to take away from the one that shows the serpent can wrap around the planet. That's just what I got out of it.

Originally posted by Horrificus
As I said, the character is a shape-changer. It isn't even in a solid form most of the time. Have you read all of these, or just remembering a couple scans? Because it has appeared over and over and each time the narration goes through these details one way or another. The thing basically exists in both dimensions in a kind of dual state, but can shift more into one realm if it chooses. It has never been said to be anything less than capable of encircling the planet. What is shown of it does vary.:

Which is why the writers have never even tried to give it's appearance any kind of consistency.

But, it's hard to argue something if statements and scans and history are getting ignored. When I have time, I will dig.

And, I can't find all the Polaroids that I used to have of it.

Here's what I got from another website:

Earth diameter = 12,742 km = 171 px

Scale = 74.51461988 km/px

Length of first part of the Serpent = 621.0502747 px = 46,277.32515 km.

Width of first part of the Serpent = 21.54065923 px = 1605.094034 km

Length of last part of the Serpent = 160.0020725 px = 11,922.49361 km

Treating the first part as a cylinder (as it essentially would be if the snake was completely straight), base radius is 802.547017 km.

Base area = 2,023,442.383 km^2

Volume = 9.363950106e10 km^3

Treating the last part as a cone (same reasoning as before), base area is the same, 2,023,442.383 km^2. Volume is thus 8,041,492,961 km^3.

Total volume = 1.01680994e11 km^3.

I can't find any info on the density of a snake, so I'll just use the density of a human body, which should be close. 1062 kg/m^3.

However as the Serpent is of Asgardian origin, we have to multiply that by 3.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Asgardians
http://i.imgur.com/SYmR9.jpg

3186 kg/m^3. So the total mass of the Midgard Serpent is 3.239556469e23 kg.

Although the serpent clearly looked smaller than the earth to me.

@Horrificus
This was from the same issue your second "purple" Midgard Serpent scan came from :

"Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of mortals would perish", does that sound planetary to you? Last time I checked there were BILLIONS of people living on planet Earth. That plus the fact that a TUGBOAT filled the creatures mouth should at least cast doubt on it's planetary size (at least for that 90s version of it).

Then you have these :
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/midgardserpent3.jpg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/midgardserpent4.jpg

Multiple instances of the Serpent being shown to be MUCH less than planetary in size and ONE instance in the "Void" (where time and space don't apply) it's shown to be encircling the planet Earth (and even at that time, a normal sized Ox filled it's mouth!).

Originally posted by Horrificus
Incidentally, if Phil's argument to throw out so many story points, scans and on-panel statements is successful, due to the extra-dimensional properties of where the conflict takes place, I can already think of a half dozen threads where I will be using it next. 😄

Originally posted by zopzop
The shared Asgard feat with BRB and their magic hammers?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I am pretty sure that Thor haters will probably denounce this one as a non-feat as well, as Thor apparently had the Odinforce(iirc) in that instance.

So what's left then (seeing as how he was (supposedly) amped and needed BRB to help him lift Asgard, the Serpent tugging is debatable, and the World Engine one is unquantifiable), the steel frame skyscraper lifting feat?

Not looking good for good ol' Thor.

Originally posted by zopzop
But in that very issue it said that "If Thor didn't stop the Midgard Serpent thrashing around hundreds, MAYBE thousands, of humans would perish as a result of it's flailing around in the ocean." Does that sound planetary to you? It was in the harbor and a TUGBOAT filled it's mouth.

But every time (?) it was seen on Earth and not in the Void, it was shown to be MUCH less than planet size. I'm remembering the 'one eyed' version of it in the 1960s? Not planet sized at all.

Now I'm no expert on the serpent but IIRC it could disguise its true form by illusion. But it was not changed or disguised when Thor removed it while planetary level. That's the problem you are going to have. Plus IIRC once it was disguised as a little "cat". And yet it still kept its incredible weight. I might be remembering wrong though.

But yeah that's what I remember and in the other scans where it is perceived shorter it doesn't really illustrate if it could wrap around the planet or not due to it being so long that that can't even fit it in the panel.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Now I'm no expert on the serpent but IIRC it could disguise its true form by illusion. But it was not changed or disguised when Thor removed it while planetary level. That's the problem you are going to have. Plus IIRC once it was disguised as a little "cat". And yet it still kept its incredible weight. I might be remembering wrong though.

But yeah that's what I remember.

The only exception being the time Thor tugged it off the planet and that was because it was on another plane of existence (as the narrator said, where the rules of time and space don't apply). And even then, a NORMAL SIZED OX filled it's mouth. How do you explain this?

Originally posted by zopzop
Wow. So he was AMPED and he needed help to lift Asgard?! FAIL.

Originally posted by zopzop
That was an illusion cast by the Frost Giant king. Almost every time the Midgard Serpent has appeared on panel it's been shown to be MUCH less than planetary in size. MUCH LESS.

The only exception being the time Thor tugged it off the planet and that was because it was on another plane of existence (as the narrator said, where the rules of time and space don't apply). And even then, a NORMAL SIZED OX filled it's mouth. How do you explain this?

IIRC the MS used a illusion to cast on itself to become a cat. It even has disguised itself as Fin Fang Foom.

But still its length is not covered in your scans so it can be presumed to still be able to wrap around a planet.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
IIRC the MS used a illusion to cast on itself to become a cat. It even has disguised itself as Fin Fang Foom.

But still its length is not covered in your scans so it can be presumed to still be able to wrap around a planet.

There are BILLIONS of mortals on the planet Earth. Endangering hundreds or even thousands isn't planetary.................at all.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, you're arguing that current Superman is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger than Thor.

Not exactly. We have one showing where the current Superman effortlessly lifts the weight of Earth for 5 days while weakened (away from the sun). *If* that is indeed his intended strength level then yes, he is billions and billions of times stronger than Thor. However, I doubt Superman's strength will become established at such a ridiculously high level -- it was likely just an isolated "high end feat".

Originally posted by Magnon
Not exactly. We have one showing where the current Superman effortlessly lifts the weight of Earth for 5 days while weakened (away from the sun). *If* that is indeed his intended strength level then yes, he is billions and billions of times stronger than Thor. However, I doubt Superman's strength will become established at such a ridiculously high level -- it was likely just an isolated "high end feat".

If that is his "intended strength level", would he also be billions and billions of times stronger than other DC top-tiers?

Wow. This thread has really caught fire. Just wanted to add another wrinkle couresty Rage..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow. This thread has really caught fire. Just wanted to add another wrinkle couresty Rage..
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThorvsGrowingMan5.jpg

Well that's on them. Stop debating lowballers.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow. This thread has really caught fire. Just wanted to add another wrinkle couresty Rage..

Nice. Thor handles the weight of half a planet and easily got up only after playing possum.

Here he's able to fight off the weight of a "score of planets". If you literally go by what Thor says, that amount is 20. Now if you don't buy 20 planets, it still doesn't dismiss the fact that it's a whole lot of frikkin planets.

Per certain fanboys
Superman's feats = count
Thor's feats = don't count