How close could thor come to bench pressing the earth once?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This isn't close to true. People say they can do things all the time.. that is worth exactly diddly squat until he does it. Did you forget that he didn't just move earth himself? Also, it wasn a suprise just because it was DCnu doing it, but it was because superman never has moved the earth on his own or bench pressed the earth for 5 days. You act like he did this kind of feat all the time... that just isn't true. If so, please post the feats of superman that are the equivelant of this. Shit, superman has been shown to struggle lifting a skyscraper of all thigns... not to mention countless struggles with far less weight throughout his history. That is the reason why it was so weird to see him do it.. ya know.. cause he never has.

Originally posted by -Pr-
and what if, for a time, hulk and thor's feats had made them look less impressive than Adam, or Superman, who was riding high on a series of good feats?

That's where feats come in.

Originally posted by Juntai
Before the reboot, Superman both told us he could bench press the planet [which I posted in the thread], but moved it himself, with GL making a contraption to make it possible. And tons of of other feats in that realm[ holding a black hole, etc]. He also moved/shifted the moon on -several- different occasions.

It's not a ridiculous outlier in Superman's history.
It was only 'wild' because we hadn't seen that from DCnU Supes -yet-.

So we're going to have to dig up threads from a month or so ago when some of the more credible among Superman fans were saying things like "prior to the DCnU bench pressing feat, that pre reboot Supes contributing 1/3 of the strength necessary to pull Earth was considered a high end quantifiable strength for him and that even then stuff like that was rare"?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Before the reboot superman was supposed to be more powerful.

So why would him saying something have any barring on the current version of superman? Him saying he could.. and never doing it under that version is the point. Also, how does moving smaller objects (in a more powerful version of superman) have any significance on moving bigger objects when you're suppose to be weaker?

Originally posted by dmills
So we're going to have to dig up threads from a month or so ago when some of the more credible among Superman fans were saying things like "prior to the DCnU bench pressing feat, that pre reboot Supes contributing 1/3 of the strength necessary to pull Earth was considered a high end quantifiable strength for him and that even then stuff like that was rare"?

Exactly.

I totally don't see how DCnU Superman's bench feat wouldn't be a crazy high end quantifiable feat of strength/stamina for Superman prior to the reboot. Especially considering the amount of cookies that were lost when said feat occurred.

I mean, you have people now using that feat as a means to legitimately argue that the new Superman is physically stronger than the prior one. And they wouldn't be insane for doing so.

Originally posted by dmills
So we're going to have to dig up threads from a month or so ago when some of the more credible among Superman fans were saying things like "prior to the DCnU bench pressing feat, that pre reboot Supes contributing 1/3 of the strength necessary to pull Earth was considered a high end quantifiable strength for him and that even then stuff like that was rare"?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Before the reboot superman was supposed to be more powerful. So why would him saying something have any barring on the current version of superman? Him saying he could.. and never doing it under that version is the point. Also, how does moving smaller objects (in a more powerful version of superman) have any significance on moving bigger objects when you're suppose to be weaker?

Yes, before the reboot. That's since changed. There's nothing that says post reboot Superman has to be weaker than pre-reboot.

Originally posted by dmills
So we're going to have to dig up threads from a month or so ago when some of the more credible among Superman fans were saying things like "prior to the DCnU bench pressing feat, that pre reboot Supes contributing 1/3 of the strength necessary to pull Earth was considered a high end quantifiable strength for him and that even then stuff like that was rare"?

I never believed that was one of his higher feats, tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hulk's feats of destroying a planet in a much weaker version doesn't makek that verson greater than savage hulk imo.

that's just him in a normal, hulk fist fight, not a crazy "tanking reality warp by amped vector" type stuff, which by logic would be far more easier to accomplish since everything about him is buffed to the point of causing cataclysmic earthquakes just by walking towards that same amped vector.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Exactly.

I totally don't see how DCnU Superman's bench feat wouldn't be a crazy high end quantifiable feat of strength/stamina for Superman prior to the reboot. Especially considering the amount of cookies that were lost when said feat occurred.

I mean, you have people now using that feat as a means to legitimately argue that the new Superman is physically stronger than the prior one. And they wouldn't be insane for doing so.

Originally posted by Juntai
Oh, it's a good showing, but it would be a good showing among many. Superman does in any given handful years in strength what Marvel fans tend to have to go back 30 years or more to achieve for the likes of Gladiator, Thor, etc. His average is thus, much higher than theirs, when their career max is just the norm for him.

What?

How does this make it so that what DCnU Superman did not qualify for an incredibly upper end feat of strength for pre-flashpoint Superman? If it wasn't, there wouldn't been half the reaction there was when that feat happened or the inevitable comparisons between both incarnations of Superman.

Until the current superman lifts infinite weight and matches several other ridiculous strength feats from Pre reboot superman he's not stronger than his previous version. Not by a long shot.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Until the current superman lifts infinite weight and matches several other ridiculous strength feats from Pre reboot superman he's not stronger than his previous version. Not by a long shot.

Yeah I would agree with that

Remind me, When did Superman lift infinite weight?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What?

How does this make it so that what DCnU Superman did not qualify for an incredibly upper end feat of strength for pre-flashpoint Superman? If it wasn't, there wouldn't been half the reaction there was when that feat happened or the inevitable comparisons between both incarnations of Superman.

To each their own.

I've already named a ton of feats, and many more are in the thread, that prove it's not a ridiculous outlier for pre-Flashpoint Superman.
It would just be one among many.

Would you say benching a planet, or with your powers evaporating to nothingness under a red sun making enough raw power out of heat vision to move a planet 6 TIMES the size of Earth to be a greater feat?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Until the current superman lifts infinite weight and matches several other ridiculous strength feats from Pre reboot superman he's not stronger than his previous version. Not by a long shot.

By quantifiable feats, what has Pre-Flashpoint Superman done that equals the feat of DCnU Superman?

I'll agree that Pre-Flashpoint's averages are soundly superior to that of DCnU Superman, but what single feat of Pre-Flashpoint Superman's matches being able to bench Earth for five days straight while technically not even being at peak strength?

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yeah I would agree with that

Originally posted by Juntai
It was only surprising to me because it was DCnU Superman..

To each their own.

Would you say benching a planet, or with your powers evaporating to nothingness under a red sun making enough raw power out of heat vision to move a planet 6 TIMES the size of Earth to be a greater feat?

Completely different displays of power.

One is using raw physical strength and stamina and the other is using heat vision.

To that end, I may as well compare the Midgard Serpent feat with Thor holding up 1/4 of the multiverse.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Remind me, When did Superman lift infinite weight?

Twice that I know of. Once when him and captain marvel lifted the book with infinite pages.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Twice that I know of. Once when him and captain marvel lifted the book with infinite pages.

It was said to have infinite weight?