How close could thor come to bench pressing the earth once?

Originally posted by Newjak
So can you point me to an actual issue where the space between Asgard and Earth was described in such a way like it was in the Superman/Orion exchange you quoted?

That would be enough in itself to nullify this feat.

But then, we also have the fact that the Serpent was fished with a regular sized bull [lol] and a rope [all this while he is still blatantly still holding Earth in his grip]

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_15.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_16.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_17.jpg

And then fighting Thor while, again, nowhere near Earth-sized:

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_18.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_19.jpg
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt19/Max_Eisenhardt/Thor_1983_327_20.jpg

..so we have its actual relative size to Thor, a bull, a boat etc. [and Tyr/Loki, Odin etc. - more on that later on, keep reading]

Originally posted by Newjak
Ethereal can mean celestial/heavenly. Which the Serpent was big enough to be in that arc if it can crush a planet

The Serpent wasn't literally crushing the planet in his coil, the same way he wasn't literally circling the Earth in normal/space time. He wasn't squeezing Earth in the literal sense, as you or I would squeeze a grape. He was encircling it in the Void (where the constricts of normal space/time don't apply) and catastrophes started taking place around the world, as he was attacking this plane of existence from there [as Odin remarks]

He wasn't a 'physical presence' in that sense.

That's why he was 'etheral':

1. Characterized by lightness and insubstantiality; intangible.
2. Highly refined; delicate. See Synonyms at airy.
3.
a. Of the celestial spheres; heavenly.
b. Not of this world; spiritual.
4. Chemistry Of or relating to ether.

And that's why Thor had to leave the Earth space/time/sphere, and go confront the Serpent in the Void:

In fact, here is yet another scene, from the same comic, that takes the concept of the Serpent being Earth-sized home, beats it, ties it to the radiator and leaves it there to die: Tyr and Loki use the Serpent to travel to Earth, travelling along its tail which is basically bridge-sized and then exit through a portal that is basically the Serpent's mouth manifested in Earth's realm [remember, as all of this is happening, the Serpent is still supposedly, erm, Earth-sized]

The size depicted here is [well, what do you know ?!] in line with every other portrayal of the serpent in this issue - be it when the villains first face it, be it when Thor fishes it [and it encircles the Earth from the non-normal space/time Void], be it when Thor fights it, and be it when Thor ties it to Yggdrasil.

Originally posted by Newjak
Your last scan is probably the best one for supporting your claim I'll give you that one is hard to argue against.

No, what [I'm] doing here is simply pointing out blatant facts from the story, that have been mis-spread around for years now. There's nothing to 'debate' here.

I'll upload the whole issue, if it's not against the rules, and let anybody read it. It doesn't even take average intelligence - the events I've presented are clear as day, as long as you read it for yourself, and don't have Thor fans shoving up their cropped scans for years on end.

Originally posted by Horrificus
*skip*

In this place specifically, the normal rules of time/space don't apply:

(both of these scans are from the same page, by the way)

When the Serpent physically encircled Earth from within the Void, in the normal space/time [i.e. Earth's space/time] he wasn't a physical presence that was squeezing Earth [imagine you're holding a pair of balls in your hand. Squeeze. That's not what the serpent did], but inducing catastrophes through its etheral form, which is what's presented in Earth's space/time [in the Void space/time, he was physical - and that's why Thor needed to go there, to deal with him]

Try to be coherent. If not, get somebody to help you do so. My brain hurts reading your vomit.

Any other questions?

👆

Originally posted by carver9
Something is wrong with Jun. He mustve missed the recent showing of Hulk punching a pig in the face causing planetary destruction...a calm Hulk.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
shut up

😂 You gotta do a lot more of that Psycho. A LOT more.

well, this thread isn't boring. 😂

Originally posted by leonidas
well, this thread isn't boring. 😂

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And it's not like Superman fans don't splooge in their own underwear, right?

Thor's strong as what the story intends or needs him to be. When facing against an "elite" strong man such as Hulk, his strength is either portrayed as being equal or at least comparable in some way. His power and energy output is what generally consist of his WTF level feats.

Not sure what's sad here considering that most people here agree that such a feat isn't happening for Thor based on what he's been doing for the past dozen years or so and if it or something similar did happen, it would be a wild and absurd feat, much like benching a planet for five days straight.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Asgard isn't intangible. It is physical. Earth isn't intangible. It is physical. The Void where Serpent encircled Earth is neither Earth nor Asgard - it's between them:

In this place specifically, the normal rules of time/space don't apply:

(both of these scans are from the same page, by the way)

When the Serpent physically encircled Earth from within the Void, in the normal space/time [i.e. Earth's space/time] he wasn't a physical presence that was squeezing Earth [imagine you're holding a pair of balls in your hand. Squeeze. That's not what the serpent did], but inducing catastrophes through its etheral form, which is what's presented in Earth's space/time [in the Void space/time, he was physical - and that's why Thor needed to go there, to deal with him]

Try to be coherent. If not, get somebody to help you do so. My brain hurts reading your vomit.

Any other questions?

Nobody said the earth was intangible, except, perhaps the voices in your head. I stated that the serpents physical presence was not in the reality of the 616. It's physical form was encircled around a mirror image of the earth, which dwelt in the void. It was stated that, as it closes it's coils, it becomes more "solid" in the 616, in essence, bleeding through the veil between dimensions. This is why Thor had to travel through Asgard to confront the physical serpent.

I stated this and you would have saved yourself endless, arrogant banter if you had read it, instead of just brooding in your bathroom, imagining your magnificent retorts.

The Midgard Serpent has power over it's shape and size. It is also able to flip between dimensions effortlessly. And, none of this has anything to do with you disproving it's size, strength, existence or Thor's feat.

Does this usually work for you? Just posting a bunch of scans and retyping the same crap again and again without even reading the opposition's posts?

You just ignored many posts from many people, essentially disintegrating your entire argument.

Shape Changer. Size Changer. Dwells in dual dimensions. Can act from the physical or spiritual states. Can effect Earth with it's physical form as well as it's spiritual.

The effects were not immediate, since it was attacking from a position outside the 616, but it could become physical in either real, and crush the earth.

Imagine you have a pair of balls in your mouth. Sure, if you are more at-home actually performing the act, be my guest. Now, bite. That is the effect the serpent can have from either state.

This is a very powerful entity.

None of your arguments or statements discounts it's consistent descriptions for decades.

But, I don't think the machine that Superman is hooked up to, looks like it can exert any more than a few tons. So, I don't buy it. It's a lie. Where is the proof that it is a planetary weight? Etc, etc, etc... Blah, blah, blah.

Hey, maybe you should make a little sign and go march in front of Marvel until they print a Thor book that admits they are lying about the Midgard Serpent.

Also, the description of the void "where space and time know no natural bounds", there is nothing said that takes away from the feat. It is not outer space, with a lack of gravity for instance. No further description that concerns weight or strength or mass exists.

Nothing in that statement helps your point. "Knows no bounds" could mean that Thor's feat is actually higher-end than it seems..

As a matter of fact, I say that, since Thor had to pass through Asgard to get to this void, it implies that it probably holds closer to the properties of Asgard than anywhere else. This means, the serpent is much more dense and the gravity from this mirror image of Earth was much more powerful than that of the 616 side of earth.

I would have an easier time arguing this than you would have, trying to prove that it diminishes Thor's feat. But, a definitive statement of "a final yank of unimaginable power" is meant to make sure that the message is loud and clear and we are looking at a true strength feat with no reason for low-balling or wiggle-room to shoot it down.

It is exactly what it is written to be. A high-end strength feat with no room for misinterpretation. Or, misrepresentation.

And, please, if you are going to argue with me, at least read my post and show specific details that you aren't buying. Don't just re-post my words with your spin on them. Thanks.

When they were both on Earth Thor's muscles and shoulders were cracking and straining to the end of his strength just to lift its foot. Its clear all those factors made lifting the serpent possible regardless of what you want to believe.

Originally posted by Horrificus
I stated this and you would have saved yourself endless, arrogant banter if you had read it, instead of just brooding in your bathroom, imagining your magnificent retorts.

Originally posted by Juntai
When they were both on Earth Thor's muscles and shoulders were cracking and straining to the end of his strength just to lift its foot. Its clear all those factors made lifting the serpent possible regardless of what you want to believe.

That thor was under Hela's curse. He couldn't heal and his body was basically held together only by the armor he wore. Which is the reason he wore it actually.

He had already lifted it partially for the first time as a teen anyway.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Imagine you have a pair of balls in your mouth. Sure, if you are more at-home actually performing the act, be my guest. Now, bite.

😂

Originally posted by Horrificus
You ignoring posts and simply re-posting your rant, only WITH scans and extra bonus insults, is still just you acting indignant due to your opinion not holding the weight that you wished it held.

Nobody said the earth was intangible, except, perhaps the voices in your head. I stated that the serpents physical presence was not in the reality of the 616. It's physical form was encircled around a mirror image of the earth, which dwelt in the void. It was stated that, as it closes it's coils, it becomes more "solid" in the 616, in essence, bleeding through the veil between dimensions. This is why Thor had to travel through Asgard to confront the physical serpent.

I stated this and you would have saved yourself endless, arrogant banter if you had read it, instead of just brooding in your bathroom, imagining your magnificent retorts.

The Midgard Serpent has power over it's shape and size. It is also able to flip between dimensions effortlessly. And, none of this has anything to do with you disproving it's size, strength, existence or Thor's feat.

Does this usually work for you? Just posting a bunch of scans and retyping the same crap again and again without even reading the opposition's posts?

You just ignored many posts from many people, essentially disintegrating your entire argument.

Shape Changer. Size Changer. Dwells in dual dimensions. Can act from the physical or spiritual states. Can effect Earth with it's physical form as well as it's spiritual.

The effects were not immediate, since it was attacking from a position outside the 616, but it could become physical in either real, and crush the earth.

Imagine you have a pair of balls in your mouth. Sure, if you are more at-home actually performing the act, be my guest. Now, bite. That is the effect the serpent can have from either state.

This is a very powerful entity.

None of your arguments or statements discounts it's consistent descriptions for decades.

But, I don't think the machine that Superman is hooked up to, looks like it can exert any more than a few tons. So, I don't buy it. It's a lie. Where is the proof that it is a planetary weight? Etc, etc, etc... Blah, blah, blah.

Hey, maybe you should make a little sign and go march in front of Marvel until they print a Thor book that admits they are lying about the Midgard Serpent.

Also, the description of the void "where space and time know no natural bounds", there is nothing said that takes away from the feat. It is not outer space, with a lack of gravity for instance. No further description that concerns weight or strength or mass exists.

Nothing in that statement helps your point. "Knows no bounds" could mean that Thor's feat is actually higher-end than it seems..

As a matter of fact, I say that, since Thor had to pass through Asgard to get to this void, it implies that it probably holds closer to the properties of Asgard than anywhere else. This means, the serpent is much more dense and the gravity from this mirror image of Earth was much more powerful than that of the 616 side of earth.

I would have an easier time arguing this than you would have, trying to prove that it diminishes Thor's feat. But, a definitive statement of "a final yank of unimaginable power" is meant to make sure that the message is loud and clear and we are looking at a true strength feat with no reason for low-balling or wiggle-room to shoot it down.

It is exactly what it is written to be. A high-end strength feat with no room for misinterpretation. Or, misrepresentation.

And, please, if you are going to argue with me, at least read my post and show specific details that you aren't buying. Don't just re-post my words with your spin on them. Thanks.

Ouch.

Btw, What's with all the talk of biting and squeezing balls?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Keep this between Thor and Superman because Hulk is the strongest top tier there is. He's the benchmark.

lol

You know how it is. Talking about gods and aliens then testicles just pop into the

I didn't know horrificus had that kind of fire in his piss. CC surprised me too when he went hamm on ODG in that one thread a while back. All these seemingly mild mannered dudes on kmc have alter egos or something lol.

I have yet to be unleashed and go Worldbreaker. Heart of the Monster JacketheBanke would be a fearsome sight.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I have yet to be unleashed and go Worldbreaker. Heart of the Monster JacketheBanke would be a fearsome sight.

I think abhi is testing your limits.

He hasn't revealed how it was him that planted the bomb.

When Damborgson does that, sh!t's going down

Originally posted by dmills
I think abhi is testing your limits.

I'm always holding back.

Canon.