Who can lift Mjlonir?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Matt Fraction wrote Odin being > Serpent and Thor being > the Worthy (barring Nul whom he still BFRed with a single blow and not being 100%).

This writer intent argument would be nice if you actually read these stories.

I disagree. He wrote Odin in the past > Serpent in the past. Even if current Odin> current Serpent then, that doesn't prove anything. A lesser being can have a more powerful or equal weapon than a more powerful being anyday of the week in comics, especially if the enchantment power comes from an outside source (like another dimension).

Originally posted by Silent Master
OF Thor isn't an examples of "less force"

IOW, you have nothing to indicate they are of the same durability. BTW, Thor has crushed normal Uru in his hands before

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He has the Courage of Achilles, but at base, he's still a child. Now, Fawcett Era Cap and other depictions of the guy explicitly show him as being a separate entity to Billy all together and when they say "Shazam!" they essentially trade places, not unlike how Rick Jones and Mar-Vell - who clearly took that from Cap and Billy. Thor is too naive at times? He's really not outside of when it comes to Loki. If anything, he's more hot headed and ready to fight than being overly trusting and nice. Being a good person - a great person - factors into worthiness, but it's not the entirety of what makes one worthy. Balder's a great warrior, but he's more at home tending to animals and singing and being a carefree soul than he is on the battlefield. It's a healthy balance between nobility and purity of soul as well as being a hardened warrior who's willing to make the hard choices.

What? That doesn't even make sense. Fraction and Fear Itself and its tie-ins/spin offs made it clear that Odin was superior to the Serpent and the Odin Force trumped the, well, Serpent/Cul Force or whatever you want to call it. Odin could have solo'd Cul and his Worthy and was willing to do so, but the cost would have razed Earth to the ground, much like he did before.

Odin couldn't kill Cul permenentantly due to prophecy, but he could have whopped his ass at the cost of Earth suffering.

So it's Balder non committment to being a warrior 24/7 that prevents him from being Worthy?

Again, I disagree with the logic that since Odin is superior to Serpent then Mjolnir is superior to Nul's hammer IN DURABILITY for reasons I stated already.

Originally posted by h1a8
So it's Balder non committment to being a warrior 24/7 that prevents him from being Worthy?

Again, I disagree with the logic that since Odin is superior to Serpent then Mjolnir is superior to Nul's hammer [b]IN DURABILITY for reasons I stated already. [/B]

So, basically, you want to attribute Mjolnir's properties onto the other Worthy hammers because you feel that Cul is equal to Odin in terms of enchanted weaponry?

You can't prove Cul >= Odin, and really, all evidence points to the opposite if anything. Outside of you wanting Nul's hammer to be equal or superior to Mjolnir, there's nothing that suggest that these hammers are equal to Mjolnir or the Odin Force enchantment it's been infused with.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course it is. Just look at OF strength feats.

Obvious troll is obvious.

He-Man should have the characteristics to.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, basically, you want to attribute Mjolnir's properties onto the other Worthy hammers because you feel that Cul is equal to Odin in terms of enchanted weaponry?

You can't prove Cul >= Odin, and really, all evidence points to the opposite if anything. Outside of you wanting Nul's hammer to be equal or superior to Mjolnir, there's nothing that suggest that these hammers are equal to Mjolnir or the Odin Force enchantment it's been infused with.

I'm not referring to overall powers Jake. I'm only referring to durability. Nowhere in the comic does it suggest that Mjolnir is more durable than Nul's hammer. They are both made of Uru and both enchanted. You keep using this faulty logic. Who's more powerful doesn't prove who has the more durable weapon. Odin didn't even make Mjolnir, he just enchanted it.

And you never answered this:

"So it's Balder non committment to being a warrior 24/7 that prevents him from being Worthy or it's writer's flaw?"

enchantments from a more powerful being don't produce more powerful weaponry? k...

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not referring to overall powers Jake. I'm only referring to durability. Nowhere in the comic does it suggest that Mjolnir is more durable than Nul's hammer. They are both made of Uru and both enchanted. You keep using this faulty logic. Who's more powerful doesn't prove who has the more durable weapon. Odin didn't even make Mjolnir, he just enchanted it.

And you never answered this:

"So it's Balder non committment to being a warrior 24/7 that prevents him from being Worthy or it's writer's flaw?"

If you want to claim that Nul's hammer is just as durable as Mjolnir, you have to provide proof.

BTW, your speculation isn't proof.

Mister Terrible

Isnt both nuls hammer and mljonir both made of uru? Therefore they are both as durable?

Originally posted by Damborgson
enchantments from a more powerful being don't produce more powerful weaponry? k...

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Isnt both nuls hammer and mljonir both made of uru? Therefore they are both as durable?

Do you have any proof, or are you relying on speculation?

@ CUHLOSUHS

examples?

Popeye.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Isnt both nuls hammer and mljonir both made of uru? Therefore they are both as durable?

And Thor can just carve a new hammer that's just as durable out of any old Uru lying around his Thor cave

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yes. Therefore any Asgardian can have a weapon just as durable as Mjolnir

Originally posted by janus77
Valkyrie's chastity belt's made from Uru... 😕

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to claim that Nul's hammer is just as durable as Mjolnir, you have to provide proof.

BTW, your speculation isn't proof.

If you want to say that Mjolnir>Nul's hammer in durability then you must provide proof.
BTW, your speculation isn't proof.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I'd imagine her throwing her vagina at fiends and ne'er-do-wells isn't a very viable attack though

Originally posted by janus77
Think of it more as a trap.