Who can lift Mjlonir?

Started by Damborgson19 pages
Originally posted by Silent Master
The Hulk's personality is basically that of a 3 year-old throwing a temper tantrum, he’ll never be worthy. And for some reason that seems to upset the Hulk’s fanboys. 😇

Meh

not our fault their character is inferior.

lol @ Janus' trolling

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lol @ Janus' trolling
💃

That's not trolling, that's the truth.

Maybe in Carver's Gamma induced wet dreams.

Carvie doesn't sleep, he's a spam bot.

*Gamma induced programming

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You mean Hercuthor and Thorcules? 😬

Billy is a good kid but is too naive and innocent to be worthy of Mjolnir. He doesn't have a warrior's heart like either Thor or Steve. Parker's not selfish and arrogant. He has moments where those traits show themselves, but as a whole, he's a great human being. Balder is esssentially the most noble, most liked, and adored Asgardian. Literally everyone - including the animals and nature itself (barring mistletoe) - loves him. He's a formidable warrior, but he's considered to be the shining light of Asgard. And he can't lift Mjolnir by his and others own accounts.

How so? You can't prove Serpent = Odin (especially when it was shown already that Odin > Serpent) nor that their enchantments were equal.

Skyfathers aren't made equal, especially Odin and Serpent. Fraction, the guy who wrote Fear Itself, also clearly showed us that Odin was beyond the likes of the Serpent power wise in spite of him not being able to be the one to perma-kill him. lol @ "follower of Jake", though. 👆

Because lineage, strength, and power aren't the prerequisites for lifting Mjolnir? Hercules has his moments of being a noble selfless hero, but nine times out of ten, he's a drunk womanizing braggart with questionable moments of honor. He's an awesome character, don't get me wrong, but he's not worthy like Bill or Captain America is.

Storm just had a bastardized copy of Mjolnir not the real thing.

Billy does have a warrior's heart. Remember Achilles? He might not have the skill of one though. Thor is naive too at times. That doesn't determine worthiness IMO. So if Balder has all of Thor's best traits then why can't he lift the hammer? There must be some flaw. Maybe it's the writer's flaw?

The writer never wrote anything suggesting that the hammers were inferior in durability to Mjolnir. It's clearly not impossible, in comics, for a greater being's weapon to be equal to an inferior being's weapon. Hell I can write a character using 90% of his power to enchant a weapon while a stronger character using only 40% of his power to enchant.

So the argument of who's greater is irrelevant. Lastly, Odin was shown superior to Serpent in the past. Current day they never faced off.

Oh and you do notice how Silent piggy backs off your arguments a lot and responds for you when others reply to you. He hardly has original thought of his own. He acts like a child, trolling and ignoring what someone posted while repeating the same thing that doesn't even address the statement. Clearly he trolls, do you agree? Is he your little brother or cousin or something?

Question:
Will Mjolnir break before being lifted?
In other words, is the enchantment stronger than the durability of the hammer?

Originally posted by h1a8
Billy does have a warrior's heart. Remember Achilles? He might not have the skill of one though. Thor is naive too at times. That doesn't determine worthiness IMO. So if Balder has all of Thor's best traits then why can't he lift the hammer? There must be some flaw. Maybe it's the writer's flaw?

The writer never wrote anything suggesting that the hammers were inferior in durability to Mjolnir. It's clearly not impossible, in comics, for a greater being's weapon to be equal to an inferior being's weapon. Hell I can write a character using 90% of his power to enchant a weapon while a stronger character using only 40% of his power to enchant.

So the argument of who's greater is irrelevant. Lastly, Odin was shown superior to Serpent in the past. Current day they never faced off.

He has the Courage of Achilles, but at base, he's still a child. Now, Fawcett Era Cap and other depictions of the guy explicitly show him as being a separate entity to Billy all together and when they say "Shazam!" they essentially trade places, not unlike how Rick Jones and Mar-Vell - who clearly took that from Cap and Billy. Thor is too naive at times? He's really not outside of when it comes to Loki. If anything, he's more hot headed and ready to fight than being overly trusting and nice. Being a good person - a great person - factors into worthiness, but it's not the entirety of what makes one worthy. Balder's a great warrior, but he's more at home tending to animals and singing and being a carefree soul than he is on the battlefield. It's a healthy balance between nobility and purity of soul as well as being a hardened warrior who's willing to make the hard choices.

What? That doesn't even make sense. Fraction and Fear Itself and its tie-ins/spin offs made it clear that Odin was superior to the Serpent and the Odin Force trumped the, well, Serpent/Cul Force or whatever you want to call it. Odin could have solo'd Cul and his Worthy and was willing to do so, but the cost would have razed Earth to the ground, much like he did before.

Odin couldn't kill Cul permenentantly due to prophecy, but he could have whopped his ass at the cost of Earth suffering.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
*Gamma induced programming

Gimp - Gamma Infused Massive Posting

Or perhaps
Gay Internet Mod Pesterer?

Anyway, back on-topic. Hulk wins. You can't argue with that. You're too busy following Thor around with the smelling salts to wake him up, just in case he has another fainting spell.

Originally posted by h1a8
Question:
Will Mjolnir break before being lifted?
In other words, is the enchantment stronger than the durability of the hammer?

I would say, so yeah.

Mjolnir's been shown to be cracked or destroyed more so than the enchantment being overpowered.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Carver9 have all of the qualities to lift Mjlonir.

I agree.

Originally posted by janus77
Gimp - Gamma Infused Massive Posting

Or perhaps
Gay Internet Mod Pesterer?

Anyway, back on-topic. Hulk wins. You can't argue with that. You're too busy following Thor around with the smelling salts to wake him up, just in case he has another fainting spell.

Hulk wins? Wins what? The inability to lift Mjolnir? Are you even following this topic at all or too busy looking for moments to stroke Hulk when he's mentioned?

Your trolling skills need some work, bro.

Originally posted by janus77
You're too busy following Thor around with the smelling salts to wake him up, just in case he has another fainting spell.

😆

It's funny 'cause it's true.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk wins? Wins what? The inability to lift Mjolnir? Are you even following this topic at all or too busy looking for moments to stroke Hulk when he's mentioned?

Your trolling skills need some work, bro.


Hulk wins is a perfectly valid statement to make, regardless of context.

The truth of it is absolute and transcendent for all time.

You're just a little 'sensitive' at present, that's all.

Back on topic, please.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
😆

It's funny 'cause it's true.


indeed 😎

It's a tough job, but we have to be cruel to be kind.... Help ease them into the transition from denial to acceptance and eventually onto the path of healing.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wins is a perfectly valid statement to make, regardless of context.

The truth of it is absolute and transcendent for all time.

You're just a little 'sensitive' at present, that's all.

lol, well, you certainly do play the part of raging Hulk fanboy pretty well, I'll give you that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Back on topic, please.