Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's not an "expert opinion" its written in Mortality Statistics 1909.
This was supposed to be taken out, I missed it while editing my post. Eckburg cites Mortality Statistics 1909 and 1910 for claim that early in the century more than half the data was recorded by the statisticians as "unknown" but I was unable to find what he was referring to when looking at the documents on the CDC site.
- No clip sizes bigger than 7 rounds for assault weapons.
- Buying mass amounts of ammunition automatically sends a red-flag to police.
- All assault rifles already owned have to be registered by the year's end.
- Psychologists and other mental health individuals are legally required to report a patient if they think he/she is likely to harm themselves or others.
Think I got all the highlights from the vid.
So yeah. Opinions?
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
YouTube video- No clip sizes bigger than 7 rounds for assault weapons.
OH NO! The possibility of quickly reloading a gun just is not there!
Bad example? So let us pretend it is somebody "regular"....
OH NO! A person who is familiar with their weapons cannot possibly reload it in 2 seconds!
Here's another point!
A person cannot possibly make or buy a higher capacity magazine when they are going to do some murdering with their gun! The internet also does not exist. 😐
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
- Buying mass amounts of ammunition automatically sends a red-flag to police.
What happens if a person or group.......makes their own ammunition? But, yes, this is a good idea.
But what happens if they slowly stockpile it, buy it under different identities, or have a group of people purchase it for them? If a person wants to break the law...it is quite easy to do. If I am able to think of multiple ways around this law in a couple of seconds, what about a dedicated/insane person that is intent or doing some bad stuff?
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
- All assault rifles already owned have to be registered by the year's end.
Sounds good...except for the people that will be using their weapons for something criminal: not registering shiiiieeet. Also, the extreme majority of gun homicides will be unaffected by this arbitrary rule.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
- Psychologists and other mental health individuals are legally required to report a patient if they think he/she is likely to harm themselves or others.
The best thing about the law. Nothing wrong with this. Professionals should be the ones making these assessments, anyway. Not a lawmaker.
How about a law that allows police to do random gun checks in homes? A provision could be in the law that would force the police to not be able to charge the people with anything but illegal gun/ammo possession. Everything else could require a warrant. Does not have to be limited to guns: could be anything that could cause mass death...like that b-word that I cannot use because I am at work. This is pretty much what Japan does and they have excellent homicide stats (much less gun homicides).
Originally posted by dadudemon
OH NO! The possibility of quickly reloading a gun just is not there!Bad example? So let us pretend it is somebody "regular"....
OH NO! A person who is familiar with their weapons cannot possibly reload it in 2 seconds!
Here's another point!
A person cannot possibly make or buy a higher capacity magazine when they are going to do some murdering with their gun! The internet also does not exist. 😐
What happens if a person or group.......makes their own ammunition? But, yes, this is a good idea.
But what happens if they slowly stockpile it, buy it under different identities, or have a group of people purchase it for them? If a person wants to break the law...it is quite easy to do. If I am able to think of multiple ways around this law in a couple of seconds, what about a dedicated/insane person that is intent or doing some bad stuff?
Sounds good...except for the people that will be using their weapons for something criminal: not registering shiiiieeet. Also, the extreme majority of gun homicides will be unaffected by this arbitrary rule.
The best thing about the law. Nothing wrong with this. Professionals should be the ones making these assessments, anyway. Not a lawmaker.
How about a law that allows police to do random gun checks in homes? A provision could be in the law that would force the police to not be able to charge the people with anything but illegal gun/ammo possession. Everything else could require a warrant. Does not have to be limited to guns: could be anything that could cause mass death...like that b-word that I cannot use because I am at work. This is pretty much what Japan does and they have excellent homicide stats (much less gun homicides).
What kills me is that we have to be this paranoid in the greatest country in the world.
Originally posted by dadudemonwouldn't that violate the 4th amendment?
How about a law that allows police to do random gun checks in homes? A provision could be in the law that would force the police to not be able to charge the people with anything but illegal gun/ammo possession. Everything else could require a warrant. Does not have to be limited to guns: could be anything that could cause mass death...like that b-word that I cannot use because I am at work. This is pretty much what Japan does and they have excellent homicide stats (much less gun homicides).
Originally posted by red g jacks
wouldn't that violate the 4th amendment?
No, because it wouldn't be an unreasonable search and seizure if it were legal to search and seize weapons. A permanent warrant because the probable cause is "weapons". Capisce?
And if that doesn't float your boat, the 28th amendment would make it legal. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
No, because it wouldn't be an unreasonable search and seizure if it were legal to search and seize weapons. A permanent warrant because the probable cause is "weapons". Capisce?
I'm fairly certain that would still violate the 4th amendment. Assuming that everyone always has weapons is unreasonable.
Originally posted by Oliver North
source?
UODC puts the murder rate at 0.4 per 100000 in 2009, steady since 1995. Wikipedia has a PFD for their work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
It's difficult to compare Japan to America though when it comes to gun control. Gun ownership has literally never been of significance to the Japanese populace outside of the military, except perhaps in the late years of the Second World War when citizen militias started to form and the government distributed guns to them which were soon confiscated during the American occupation. They also have a 99% conviction rate for all crimes.
I'm not saying that the idea might not be a good idea, just that you can't expect to get similar results in America.
Originally posted by Oliver North
source?
Google search "Japan at will gun searches." It should turn up something. I'm busy and have to go to bed so I cannot spend the 5 minutes it would take to research your answer however, I do know that Japan v. Hashimoto was apparently a big deal in Japan and established that your shit could get into trouble even if the police illegally caught you. That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different than the US where such a case would be thrown out. What a difference dishonoring the family name does for a culture and their criminal system. 🙂
weird, apparently Japanese police visit all homes twice a year to collect info on people anyways, including keeping track of things like why girls sleep with the boys they do. didn't realize Japan was such a police state...
Originally posted by Oliver North
weird, apparently Japanese police visit all homes twice a year to collect info on people anyways, including keeping track of things like why girls sleep with the boys they do. didn't realize Japan was such a police state...
Semi-related:
In my cultural communications class, last semester, the course material said that Japan was one of the most sexist of all modern nations. It is changing, of course.
But, their gun control laws obviously work. Almost all gun crime is committed by "professional" criminals.
Originally posted by Oliver North
well ya, it works in the same way mandatory cavity searches to get on the subway would stop people from blowing it up.that sort of pushes against the point where, even if safe, do we want a society like that? freedom does come with some risks.
Every body just needs a little bit more Jesus in their life. Once they feel the Holy Spirit and stick with it, all crime would go away.