Who is the wisest ?

Started by quanchi1128 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
No, I didn't imply a thing, you're just too stupid to see it. You asked who was wisest of 'these' three; I said "Gandalf" and you copied me and started crying for some reason.

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Gandalf's choice to pick Frodo shits on all over wisdoms. As from outward appearances, Frodo was an utterly poor and stupid choice.

He picked a hobbit who was corrupted all the same as well. He was lucky the ring was destroyed. /thread implies stomp or not even close. You are quite awful at even understanding the meaning of simple phrases and forumspeak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He picked a hobbit who was corrupted all the same as well. He was lucky the ring was destroyed. /thread implies stomp or not even close. You are quite awful at even understanding the meaning of simple phrases and forumspeak.

Actually, why do you think Sam was sent with him in the first place?

And, he wasn't "duped" by Saruman. nobody could have foreseen that he'd turn against them. And Gandalf, even when Saruman did, was able to account for it and adapt.

Originally posted by omgchos
Albus showed that even he could was not wise enough to avoid the curse on the gaunt ring. And as to gandalf dying, he didnt. And i dont rmember albus ever battling something as powerful as balrog so give gandalf a break.
Albus wasn't all knowing either. But he used all of that to his advantage. He also knew enough not to be frightened by death. Gandalf died in the movie but whatever I mean gandalf wasn't wise enough to step away from the edge of a cliff as the Balrog fell. He also wasn't very wise when he left the dwarves and they were almost killed by trolls. Gandalf has a temper and isn't the angel you make him out to be in the movies.

I could see Albus or Voldemort take on and beat the Balrog as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He picked a hobbit who was corrupted all the same as well. He was lucky the ring was destroyed. /thread implies stomp or not even close. You are quite awful at even understanding the meaning of simple phrases and forumspeak.

LoL, stop arguing when you don't know the source material. Bildo did extremely well against the Ring's corruption aura. He had it for close to 60 years.

facepalm You orangutan. "/thread" does not mean a "stomp" by some default. It implies that the best answer was given and that the thread is done because of it. It could or could not be a stomp, that is a separate issue.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Actually, why do you think Sam was sent with him in the first place?

And, he wasn't "duped" by Saruman. nobody could have foreseen that he'd turn against them. And Gandalf, even when Saruman did, was able to account for it and adapt.

Just because Gandalf didn't foresee it didn't mean it wasn't happening. That's his problem. The manner in which he conducted himself in the hobbit should also be an indicator of it being a possibility. Gandalf did adapt and win out just like Albus. Albus didn't have the benefit of being alive and helping which made his plan that much more difficult. Gandalf was hoping they made it he had no idea what was going on or anything. Like I said let's hope for the best type attitude.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, stop arguing when you don't know the source material. Bildo did extremely well against the Ring's corruption aura. He had it for close to 60 years.

facepalm You orangutan. "/thread" does not mean a "stomp" by some default. It implies that the best answer was given and that the thread is done because of it. It could or could not be a stomp, that is a separate issue.

He was copprupted so who cares the point is the ring took it's hold. It was luck that saw the ring destroyed not some well oiled plan. I also didn't say he didn't do very well but the point is he succumbed to it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Albus wasn't all knowing either. But he used all of that to his advantage. He also knew enough not to be frightened by death. Gandalf died in the movie but whatever I mean gandalf wasn't wise enough to step away from the edge of a cliff as the Balrog fell. He also wasn't very wise when he left the dwarves and they were almost killed by trolls. Gandalf has a temper and isn't the angel you make him out to be in the movies.

I could see Albus or Voldemort take on and beat the Balrog as well.


I would only give you the point of the dwarves because this is a movie forum. In the books gandalf wasnt their babysitter he was just helping them along. And he did save their lives in the books by tricking the trolls into arguing until daybreak. As i said he did not die, darkness took him and he wandered aimlessly until he was put were he needed to be as gandalf the white. never said he died. And as to the edge thing he has the body of an old man, he thought the fight was over or at least that hed be able to get away. He has the body of an old man, and after his fight with the balrog and crumbling the bridge he was weakend. Also in the books he had just one shoted a cave troll and was also tired from that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was copprupted so who cares the point is the ring took it's hold. It was luck that saw the ring destroyed not some well oiled plan. I also didn't say he didn't do very well but the point is he succumbed to it.

If by "corrupted" and "succumbed" you mean he reluctantly gave the ring away; being the only one to do so voluntarily. Sure.

JUST STOP TALKING NOW.

Originally posted by Robtard
If by "corrupted" and "succumbed" you mean he reluctantly gave the ring away; being the only one to do so voluntarily. Sure.

JUST STOP TALKING NOW.

By that I mean he put it away when near Mount Doom instead of throwing it in initially. I guess you didn't see the movie or thought he just liked the look of the ring. The whole point of the movies was the ring was getting to him as time progressed. The fact you didn't get that when it was clear to even newborns in the same room as this movie is beyond me.

Originally posted by omgchos
I would only give you the point of the dwarves because this is a movie forum. In the books gandalf wasnt their babysitter he was just helping them along. And he did save their lives in the books by tricking the trolls into arguing until daybreak. As i said he did not die, darkness took him and he wandered aimlessly until he was put were he needed to be as gandalf the white. never said he died. And as to the edge thing he has the body of an old man, he thought the fight was over or at least that hed be able to get away. He has the body of an old man, and after his fight with the balrog and crumbling the bridge he was weakend. Also in the books he had just one shoted a cave troll and was also tired from that.
The books have no place here. That's the point. Gandalf isn't on another level than Albus. No way in hell. I like Gandalf a lot more than Albus as well but the degree in which people are acting like he's just on another level is disturbing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
By that I mean he put it away when near Mount Doom instead of throwing it in initially. I guess you didn't see the movie or thought he just liked the look of the ring. The whole point of the movies was the ring was getting to him as time progressed. The fact you didn't get that when it was clear to even newborns in the same room as this movie is beyond me.

I was obviously talking about Bildo, hence the "had the ring for almost 60 years" comment. If you paid attention to the films you'd have known that Frodo didn't have the ring for 60ish years.

But speaking of Frodo, he was another wise choice, giving the options. Frodo only succumbed while at the heart of Mount Doom, where the Ring's pull is most powerful.

GTFO of my thread, Quan.

Originally posted by Robtard
I was obviously talking about Bildo, hence the "had the ring for almost 60 years" comment. If you paid attention to the films you'd have known that Frodo didn't have the ring for 60ish years.

But speaking of Frodo, he was another wise choice, giving the options. Frodo only succumbed while at the heart of Mount Doom, where the Ring's pull is most powerful.

GTFO of my thread, Quan.

He put the ring away and hid it from gandalf. Only when Gandalf scared the hair off his feet did he give it back. His face even got crazy later as he lusted over the ring. Frodo is the hobbit Gandalf gave the ring to so why you're bringing up another character who just happened across the ring in a thread about which character is the wisest is again only something you would so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because Gandalf didn't foresee it didn't mean it wasn't happening. That's his problem. The manner in which he conducted himself in the hobbit should also be an indicator of it being a possibility. Gandalf did adapt and win out just like Albus. Albus didn't have the benefit of being alive and helping which made his plan that much more difficult. Gandalf was hoping they made it he had no idea what was going on or anything. Like I said let's hope for the best type attitude.

i really hope you didn't just become a total **** and spoil the hobbit for me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i really hope you didn't just become a total **** and spoil the hobbit for me.
Quit reading this thread then. I thought you saw it. I figure most people who haven't seen it avoid these threads until they do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit reading this thread then. I thought you saw it. I figure most people who haven't seen it avoid these threads until they do.

You ****.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You ****.
I won't purposely do so but things get cray in threads. Who knows what will happen ? Blame robtard. It's his fault.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He put the ring away and hid it from gandalf. Only when Gandalf scared the hair off his feet did he give it back. His face even got crazy later as he lusted over the ring. Frodo is the hobbit Gandalf gave the ring to so why you're bringing up another character who just happened across the ring in a thread about which character is the wisest is again only something you would so.

LoL, you fail so hard. Gandalf scared him straight, it was still ultimately Bildo's decision to give the ring up and he's the only one to do so voluntarily. Listen, if you can't be bothered to read the books, at least look shit up, unless you like looking like a chimp?

Here, let me help your chimp-like mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilbo_Baggins

Did you not pick up in the films that Frodo was about the only person who could have taken the Ring all the way to Mount Doom without succumbing to its will? Cos he did exactly that, made it to the heart of the mountain, only then when the ring was at full potential did Frodo falter. Considering the ring held the will of a god-like being, that's not too shabby. Speaks well for Gandalf's decision making, again.

I'm getting tired of having to explain the basics to you, Quam.

The Architect from the Matrix >

his wisdom is so great no one knew wtf he was talking about.

Originally posted by marwash22
The Architect from the Matrix >

his wisdom is so great no one knew wtf he was talking about.


Thats the wachowski bros for ya.

Gandalf had the foresight and wisdom to allow Gollum life, and advised Frodo do the same, suspecting he had an important part to play.

Gollum went on to destroy the One Ring.

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