Who is the wisest ?

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, you fail so hard. Gandalf scared him straight, it was still ultimately Bildo's decision to give the ring up and he's the only one to do so voluntarily. Listen, if you can't be bothered to read the books, at least look shit up, unless you like looking like a chimp?

Here, let me help your chimp-like mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilbo_Baggins

Did you not pick up in the films that Frodo was about the only person who could have taken the Ring all the way to Mount Doom without succumbing to its will? Cos he did exactly that, made it to the heart of the mountain, only then when the ring was at full potential did Frodo falter. Considering the ring held the will of a god-like being, that's not too shabby. Speaks well for Gandalf's decision making, again.

I'm getting tired of having to explain the basics to you, Quam.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bilbo is a tiny powerless hobbit. So I guess scaring a hobbit is something worth noting. You're terrible. Frodo wasn't going to destroy the ring on his own so Gandalf was wrong. Events played out that destroyed the ring the plan didn't work out. Albus' did. You actually help my argument you silly little man.

LoL, Bildo proved he's more than the sum of his size (if you watched the Hobbit, you know what I was talking about) . Bildo wasn't "corrupted" or "succumbed" to the ring, he gave it up voluntarily. You're simply wrong again and again and again. This is basic Hobbit 101 stuff btw.

Except it ultimately did. Bildo could have killed Gollum, but didn't due to Gandalf's words of wisdom (if you watched the Hobbit, you know what I was talking about) and it was utlimately Gollum's actions that destroyed the ring once Frodo finally succumbed to the ring's full power. Again, you'd know if you paid attention and watched films before arguing out of ignorance.

Listen. You don't understand the basics of Tolkein's works. So just stop talking.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, Bildo proved he's more than the sum of his size (if you watched the Hobbit, you know what I was talking about) . Bildo wasn't "corrupted" or "succumbed" to the ring, he gave it up voluntarily. You're simply wrong again. This is basic Hobbit 101 stuff btw.

Except it ultimately did. Bildo could have killed Gollum, but didn't due to Gandalf's words of wisdom (if you watched the Hobbit, you know what I was talking about) and it was utlimately Gollum's actions that destroyed the ring once Frodo finally succumbed to the ring's full power. Again, you'd know if you paid attention and watched films before arguing out of ignorance.

Listen. You don't understand the basics of Tolkein's works. So just stop talking.

Again nicely done.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with the thread since Gandalf didn't give Bilbo the ring to destroy it. Bilbo is some easily impressionable never been on adventure hobbit. No crap does Gandalf leave an impression but Gandalf didn't 'send him on a quest which begs the question did he choose the wrong hobbit.

Again nicely done.

Oh my. Repeat: Gandalf did have the wisdom to pick Bildo for the journey, despite every outward appearance telling us that Bildo is not some brave and capable adventurer . If you knew The Hobbit, you'd know Bildo was the right choice.

Same as if you paid attention in the LoTR films, you'd know that Frodo was the right choice, giving the options.

Just stop talking out of ignorance and let the learned men deal with the topic. Besides, you already copied me and went with Gandalf as your pick. What else have you to say? Nothing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh my. Repeat: Gandalf did have the wisdom to pick Bildo for the journey, despite every outward appearance telling us that Bildo is not some brave and capable adventurer . If you knew The Hobbit, you'd know Bildo was the right choice.

Same as if you paid attention in the LoTR films, you'd know that Frodo was the right choice, giving the options.

Just stop talking out of ignorance and let the learned men deal with the topic. Besides, you already copied me and went with Gandalf as your pick. What else have you to say? Nothing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, Bilbo was the right choice for the Hobbit but was Frodo the right choice for the ring destruction ? He failed. Things ended up working out but you said Bilbo is by far and away better with the ring than Frodo. Gandalf's plan was due to a huge element of luck and like I said frodo failed when it was time to cast it in the lava.

The **** are you rambling about?

Bildo was a wise choice for the journey he went on, despite outward appearances. He proved himself.

Frodo was the wisest choice for his journey, giving anyone else would have likely succumbed to the ring long before reaching Mt. Doom.

Really, what can't you follow? Are you trying desperately to um-pick Gandalf now through claims made from Tolkien ignorance?

Gandalf didn't realize that an army of giant Eagles could have saved thousands of lives, national infrastructure, and like 2 1/2 books worth of paper. He also dropped the ball by not telling everyone that a Balrog lived in Moria and instead "let the Ringbearer decide." That's pertinent information that should have been discussed back in Rivendell.

Originally posted by Robtard
The **** are you rambling about?

Bildo was a wise choice for the journey he went on, despite outward appearances. He proved himself.

Frodo was the wisest choice for his journey, giving anyone else would have likely succumbed to the ring long before reaching Mt. Doom.

Really, what can't you follow? Are you trying desperately to um-pick Gandalf now through claims made from Tolkien ignorance?

Originally posted by quanchi112
If Bilbo didn't give into the ring in 60 plus years why wouldn't he be the best choice ? Frodo gave into the ring so his plan failed. You basically shat all over Gandalf's wisdom when he already had the perfect choice by putting failure Frodo into the game. The same idiot who trusted Gollum over his own friend. Yeah, great pick Gandy.

LoL, more basic Tolkien lore I have to explain to you. Okay, fine, Quab.

At the time of Fellowship of The Ring, Bildo was over a hundred years old and the ring after 60ish years of ownership had started taking its toll on him. He says as much to Gandalf "feeling stretched out and thin". He literally was not physically nor mentally fit to make a tremendously arduous trip.

So that is why you fail yet again, you don't know the basics and argue out of ignorance.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, more basic Tolkien lore I have to explain to you. Okay, fine, Quab.

At the time of Fellowship of The Ring, Bildo was over a hundred years old and the ring after 60ish years of ownership had started taking its toll on him. He says as much to Gandalf "feeling stretched out and thin". He literally was not physically nor mentally fit to make a tremendously arduous trip.

So that is why you fail yet again, you don't know the basics and argue out of ignorance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The ring slowed down his aging. So yes he could have made the trip. Frodo was also captured and released and survived by mere luck so don't act like Frodo was this physical specimen. The ring wasn't given to someone who was a powerful or physical specimen it was given due to not letting the ring overtake your willpower. Frodo failed. Gandy's plan failed. You failed.

No, he couldn't have, as it still affected Bildo negatively. Did you not pay attention in the film? I even quoted a line for you. He was tired and worn and mentally not tip-top due to 60ish years of owning the One Ring. Granted, Bildo could probably still kick your pansy 121lbs ass, but that's not saying much.

You swung from my nuts and copied me with Gandalf being the wises here; it's right here in this thread. LoL, you nut-swinger.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, he couldn't have, as it still affected Bildo negatively. Did you not pay attention in the film? I even quoted a line for you. He was tired and worn and mentally not tip-top due to 60ish years of owning the One Ring. Granted, Bildo could probably still kick your pansy 121lbs ass, but that's not saying much.

You swung from my nuts and copied me with Gandalf being the wises here; it's right here in this thread. LoL, you nut-swinger.

The more I think about it and the lack of arguments for Gandalf besides myself I am unsure now. You can't even form an argument and omgchos's is basically hyperbole from the books.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He still handled the ring by far better than Frodo who succumbed in far less time. Frodo failed yet you think Gandalf was awesome for making the wrong choice. Wow. I mean you sure are biased.

The more I think about it and the lack of arguments for Gandalf besides myself I am unsure now. You can't even form an argument and omgchos's is basically hyperbole from the books.

BASIC TOLKIEN LORE and it's already been explained to you: Frodo succumbed while in Mt. Doom, where the ring and Sauron were most powerful.

You had no argument, you nut-swung, nut-swinger.

Quan went from being the biggest ***** in the comic vs. forum to being the biggest ***** in this forum. Atleast he's not riding Thanos' nutsack in here.

Originally posted by Robtard
BASIC TOLKIEN LORE and it's already been explained to you: Frodo succumbed while in Mt. Doom, where the ring and Sauron were most powerful.

You had no argument, you nut-swung, nut-swinger.

So you still agree with my initial assessment that Gandalf is wisest here; which you copied. Good, nut-swinger.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you still agree with my initial assessment that Gandalf is wisest here; which you copied. Good, nut-swinger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agreed before you posted but when I asked you why you couldn't give me one reason. That's why you are a fanboy you roll with who you like more and are unable to answer the simplest of questions.

Oh, more of this "I totally believed Gandalf wins here, I just waited for you to say it first and and waited until you and others gave reasons" assclownery. Just stop.

Except I gave reasons you lying queer, they're in the thread. I had to belittle you until you finally voiced reworded thoughts from others.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, more of this "I totally believed Gandalf wins here, I just waited for you to say it first and and waited until you and others gave reasons" assclownery. Just stop.

Except I gave reasons you lying queer, they're in the thread. I had to belittle you until you finally voiced reworded thoughts from others.

Gandalf > Yoda > Dumbledore

Surprised Yoda is getting no love here.