Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't considering their skill level. They are grunts. We see Dumbledore show the skill while vastly weakened to take out beings underwater going after Harry without hitting Harry. In terms of skill it isn't even close. When Yoda went up against a highly skilled opponent he was ko'd.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThat isn't irrelevant. Yoda easily dispatches of the grunts whereas skilled opponents he does not. Dooku and Palpatine are prime examples. The bad thing to is he was even ko'd against a very slow attack from Palpatine.
Irrelevant in the face of casual blaster deflection.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was incredibly weakened and it still shows his accuracy. If you want to see razor sharp reflexes and skill see the Voldemort/Dumbledore fight.
No notable reactions at all.
And saying Yoda doesn't have great reactions against skilled foes by using a single instance with Palpatine's is flawed, especially as he easily blocks Force lightning shot from Dooku. He even catches the Force lighting shot by Palpy during their battle. If anything he was just caught off guard.
Originally posted by BloodRainSo even by your own numbers they are far greater around 2-3 times faster than here.
..whose accuracy are you talking about? I only mentioned the speed and rapidity of HP spells, which are slow. And what 'sharp reflexes'?;
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0:33 push Harry, beam clash.
0:59 fire spell, he counters it 12 seconds later.
1:34 spell shot at him, blocks it a second later.
1:52 glass spell, he reacts 8 seconds later.No notable reactions at all.
Now you will experience the full power of the dark side. This is stated by Palpatine right before his first attack. I mean Palpatine even warns him and 1 second is far faster than 2-3 seconds that ko'd Yoda here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlqDMcS_RE
Dumbledore counters it in close proximity to use the fire to send after Voldemort. Dumbledore isn't caught off guard or ko'd by a 2-3 second attack.
3.34 into the video we see Yoda finally get to the same pod with his saber drawn and a one second lightning blast disarms Yoda. Looks like Dumbledore looks vastly superior if we time these attacks.
I am saying a 2-3 second attack ko'd him and in the other two instances very slow Dooku tk attacksk while Yoda just stood by are other examples of him not reacting immediately either. Do I need to go find the Dooku video and time Dooku's tk giant object attacks. You seem so enthralled with this sort of thing. It's a game one can easily play. The pods Palpatine throws a far greater distance than Voldemort and Dumbledore were fighting at were almost hitting Yoda left and right while taking multiple seconds at times to pull off. This is a dangerous game you have started. Are you prepared to see this through ?And saying Yoda doesn't have great reactions against skilled foes by using a single instance with Palpatine's is flawed, especially as he easily blocks Force lightning shot from Dooku. He even catches the Force lighting shot by Palpy during their battle. If anything he was just caught off guard. [/B]
Originally posted by ScreamPasteGrunts attacks also move faster than 2-3 seconds that it took Palpatine to ko him. We also later see Yoda disarmed with his saber drawn out when he meets palpatine on equal ground.
Grunts with blasters that move faster than Dumbledore's spells.
Horrible debating when your only points are against the scrubs of your series.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So even by your own numbers they are far greater around 2-3 times faster than here.[B]Now you will experience the full power of the dark side
. This is stated by Palpatine right before his first attack. I mean Palpatine even warns him and 1 second is far faster than 2-3 seconds that ko'd Yoda here.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUlqDMcS_RE
Dumbledore counters it in close proximity to use the fire to send after Voldemort. Dumbledore isn't caught off guard or ko'd by a 2-3 second attack.
3.34 into the video we see Yoda finally get to the same pod with his saber drawn and a one second lightning blast disarms Yoda. Looks like Dumbledore looks vastly superior if we time these attacks.
I am saying a 2-3 second attack ko'd him and in the other two instances very slow Dooku tk attacksk while Yoda just stood by are other examples of him not reacting immediately either. Do I need to go find the Dooku video and time Dooku's tk giant object attacks. You seem so enthralled with this sort of thing. It's a game one can easily play. The pods Palpatine throws a far greater distance than Voldemort and Dumbledore were fighting at were almost hitting Yoda left and right while taking multiple seconds at times to pull off.[/B]
YouTube video
0:50 seconds.
Even as you've just stated, after he was disarmed he instantly blocked Force lightning shot at point blank. You've only used two instances where Yoda was caught off-guard, something I can confidently say as in that Dooku vid while he was in 'combat mode' he blocked the Force lightning when Dooku was making the same actions as Palpy.
Just look at his fight scenes. No human has the reactions to fight at that speed. Then we look at Dumbledoor whose best reaction feat takes a whole second to do.
This is a dangerous game you have started. Are you prepared to see this through
Originally posted by BloodRainIn the beginning of the video we see Yoda counter Dooku's tking structures off and at him. All of which takes about two seconds or so. If we break down these fights and tally how long each action/reaction takes it doesn't look so hot for Yoda either. Yoda is supposed to be this precog totin speedster to boot.
YouTube video
0:50 seconds.Even as you've just stated, after he was disarmed he instantly blocked Force lightning shot at [b]point blank
. You've only used two instances where Yoda was caught off-guard, something I can confidently say as in that Dooku vid while he was in 'combat mode' he blocked the Force lightning when Dooku was making the same actions as Palpy.Just look at his fight scenes. No human has the reactions to fight at that speed. Then we look at Dumbledoor whose best reaction feat takes a whole second to do.
That was oddly melodramatic O.o [/B]
30-34 seconds in as Dooku destroys the ceiling atop Yoda we see Yoda barely stop it right above his head against a 4 second attack. Not very impressive but then again you started this let's time everything out sort of debate.
Yoda is a little further back and does block Dooku's bolts which are far less powerful than Palpatine's; obviously. The funny thing is Palpatine with this force lightning has never shown anything impressive power wise to begin with.
2.08 in with Yoda's saber touching dooku's he starts like a 15 second process which was designed to injure/kill Yoda's friends. We see Yoda take that long to react and stop it while Dooku runs safely away.
Lesser skilled opponents go down to Yoda. Someone with greater skill presents a far bigger problem for YodaCongrats, you've stated the obvious. This does not make Dumbledore's attacks any faster. You're trying to use one low showing to discredit Yoda, and that low showing involves lightning. haermm
Originally posted by ScreamPasteThere are many instances of slower acts taking up Yoda's time and concentration than just the Palpatine fight. The Dooku fight is far worse of an example. Dumbledore's attacks are 2-3 times faster by bloodrain's own calculations than are necessary to ko Yoda. Game. Set. Match.
Congrats, you've stated the obvious. This does not make Dumbledore's attacks any faster. You're trying to use one low showing to discredit Yoda, and that low showing involves lightning. haermm
Originally posted by quanchi112Except that Dumbles is neither a force user or possessing attacks faster than a blast bolt, you're essentially ignoring Yoda's capabilities and picking out whatever scenes fit your bias by taking them out of the context of the series.
There are many instances of slower acts taking up Yoda's time and concentration than just the Palpatine fight. The Dooku fight is far worse of an example. Dumbledore's attacks are 2-3 times faster by bloodrain's own calculations than are necessary to ko Yoda. Game. Set. Match.
So, in short, no. Lol. You have done nothing to prove Dumbledore could land a hit on Yoda. That is what you have to do, simply attempting to discredit Yoda doesn't cut it.