Master of Magnetism vs Superman · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by 753
nah it's definitely a staple tactic of his. he just drops it or gets caught without it more often than he should, but it's there most of the time.

I don't see how. I haven't seen him using it in more than five fights this decade or prior.

the one in which he found a weakness because of the alignment of the magnetic lines? that feat was crap and cyclops most certainly hasn't breached his shields since and can't do it now.

I don't remember the weak spot being mentioned in the original comic. You can't just ignore the feat just because you don't like it or because it tarnishes the perfect record of magneto' shield.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by 753
yeah... or there is no such weakness in his field anymore as exemplified and commented upon by the one he used to isolate himself while pulling shadowcat from space.

I don't see that being so important. The point is that the shield has been breached before and if anybody has a record of breaking force fields, its superman.
his field has tanked cyke's blast directly without him controlling it a billion times since his first showing.
This isn't scott we're talking about.
the weak spot was a (retcon introduced) plot requirement that has never been seen in other stances.
Ok.
not quite, he tried to rip omerta apart, which failed, but he could have reversed the bloodflow to his brain, which he's done numerous times to others. omerta's strengh class has nothing to do with his invulnerability.
We can play could've, couldn't have game all day long. Except in most bricks invulnerability is proportional to strength save people like juggernaut.

when did magneto try to iron rip hercules?

When he fought champions.

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't see how. I haven't seen him using it in more than five fights this decade or prior.

he definitely has used in a lot more than five fights. sometimes skintight, sometimes as a bubble.

I don't remember the weak spot being mentioned in the original comic. You can't just ignore the feat just because you don't like it or because it tarnishes the perfect record of magneto' shield. [/B]

it was retcon introduced and a few posts ago you were giving that as explanation for why cyke hadn't reproduced the feat.

I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying cyclops can't breach his shields now and the flaw ain't there. If you want to say the shields aren't unbreachble, then sure, they aren't. but no one claimed they were to begin with, but both his average and lower shield feats withstand greater power than cyke's blast.

what I dont get is why you even feel you have to prove this point, when the safest argument is that SM will eventually and inevitably break through the shields and beat him before magneto can incapacitate him, as it is well established that maintaining the shields against strong forces is taxing and will eventually lead to exhaustion. SM has infinitely better stamina, superb durability and superspeed on his side.

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend

We can play could've, couldn't have game all day long. Except in most bricks invulnerability is proportional to strength save people like juggernaut.

well he could 😛.

most, but not all and it's not just the juggernaut, but sunspot, butterball, unus and many others violate this correlation. omerta's concept was juggernaut-like as he was very tough and not particularly strong. I'd have to check, but when magneto ripped the neo beli-clan apart, I think there was a pretty decent brick among them.

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abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by 753
he definitely has used in a lot more than five fights. sometimes skintight, sometimes as a bubble.

I'm not counting skintight FF as his natural force-field. If we take those as default, then magneto has been knocked out many times with his shields intact ala a GL.
it was retcon introduced and a few posts ago you were giving that as explanation for why cyke hadn't reproduced the feat.
I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying cyclops can't breach his shields now and the flaw ain't there. If you want to say the shields aren't unbreachble, then sure, they aren't. but no one claimed they were to begin with, but both his average and lower shield feats withstand greater power than cyke's blast.
Ok, fair enough.

what I dont get is why you even feel you have to prove this point, when the safest argument is that SM will eventually and inevitably break through the shields and beat him before magneto can incapacitate him, as it is well established that maintaining the shields against strong forces is taxing and will eventually lead to exhaustion. SM has infinitely better stamina, superb durability and superspeed on his side.

Thanks for sharing my opinion.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by 753
well he could 😛.
most, but not all and it's not just the juggernaut, but sunspot, butterball, unus and many others violate this correlation. omerta's concept was juggernaut-like as he was very tough and not particularly strong. I'd have to check, but when magneto ripped the neo beli-clan apart, I think there was a pretty decent brick among them.

ranting

I don't remember Omerta being juggernaut like. I recall northstar stunning him with a few punches.

753 Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
ranting
I don't remember Omerta being juggernaut like. I recall northstar stunning him with a few punches.

obviously, juggernaut-lite, I meant he was tougher than strong. northstar found superspeed could accumulate damage enough to hurt him.

golem370 Senior Member

I think this thread deserves a bump

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Originally posted by Philosophía
The correct answer: more powerful than your favorite hero, unless it's Superman.

carver9 Senior Member

Magneto>>>Polaris. That's your answer.

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

Polaris has nothing to do with this match though Broseph.

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Superman

iceman24567 Senior Member

Superman of course

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Polaris has nothing to do with this match though Broseph.

He has a lot to do with this match.

Wei Phoenix One-Eyed Dragon Of Oshu

How so?

carver9 Senior Member

Because his powers is the exact replica of Magneto and every time those two faced, things didn't go well for Superman.

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shut up

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
Magneto>>>Polaris. That's your answer.

Polaris can manipulate EM field of whole earth easily, magneto can't.

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