Originally posted by abhilegend
Okay. Scott breached magneto's shield in his very first appearance. Before somebody points out that it was a weaker magneto, that's false. When Moira Mactaggart examined magneto after Alpha reduced him to a child, she found out that the reason magneto was turned insane was because he was drawing too much power into himself.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which is a moot point as he starts the fight with shields up and Erik certainly can attack while being shielded at the same time. His energy projection is certainly up to the task of hurting Superman and because of the OP, Superman will be adversely effected by Magneto quicker than vice versa.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Okay. Scott breached magneto's shield in his very first appearance. Before somebody points out that it was a weaker magneto, that's false. When Moira Mactaggart examined magneto after Alpha reduced him to a child, she found out that the reason magneto was turned insane was because he was drawing too much power into himself.
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A young Scott breaching Magneto's shields once as opposed to his shields stopping entire teams of X-Men multiple times (including Scott) and other powerful beings doesn't amount to much here.
I'm not applying a no limits fallacy to Mags here, but using that instance as evidence is ridiculous, tbh.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😬A young Scott breaching Magneto's shields once as opposed to his shields stopping entire teams of X-Men multiple times (including Scott) and other powerful beings doesn't amount to much here.
I'm not applying a no limits fallacy to Mags here, but using that instance as evidence is ridiculous, tbh.
Originally posted by abhilegend
His shields have been breached before. So saying that it can't be done by superman is ridiculous tbh.
I didn't say his shields couldn't be breached, now did I?
But using a rookie Scott Summers getting through his shields - which is easily an incredibly low showing for Magneto's shields - as evidence doesn't even make sense, especially when Magneto's shields have historically been >>> Cyclops' optic blasts to say nothing of Cyclops attacking with his fellow X-Men.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I didn't say his shields couldn't be breached, now did I?But using a rookie Scott Summers getting through his shields - which is easily an incredibly low showing for Magneto's shields - as evidence doesn't even make sense, especially when Magneto's shields have historically been >>> Cyclops' optic blasts to say nothing of Cyclops attacking with his fellow X-Men.
Its a showing where magneto was more powerful than he is now as explained in X-Men v2 2. It may be a low showing but its still a valid one.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its a showing where magneto was more powerful than he is now as explained in X-Men v2 2. It may be a low showing but its still a valid one.
So a Magneto more powerful than he is now had his shields breached by a young and relatively inexperienced Cyke....whereas weaker Magnetos have consistently been able to no sell optic blasts from a more experienced and battle savvy Cyke?
How does that even begin to make sense as a valid feat to argue breaching Magneto's shields?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So a Magneto more powerful than he is now had his shields breached by a young and relatively inexperienced Cyke....whereas weaker Magnetos have consistently been able to no sell optic blasts from a more experienced and battle savvy Cyke?How does that even begin to make sense as a valid feat to argue breaching Magneto's shields?
Originally posted by abhilegend
He has failed to affect the iron in bodies of Omerta who was class 10 at best due to his invulnerability and hercules.
Originally posted by Emi~Kiro
I don't know about that since i don't get to read all that much but couldn't that have been PIS? I'm using that correctly right? Plot induced stupidity? Trying to get the lingo here :3
Originally posted by curryman
It's not like this matter's much anyways.It's energy and that means Superman's will would be factor 😄
Originally posted by abhilegend
I've seen him use his shield sporadically at best.
Originally posted by abhilegendthe one in which he found a weakness because of the alignment of the magnetic lines? that feat was crap and cyclops most certainly hasn't breached his shields since and can't do it now.
Okay. Scott breached magneto's shield in his very first appearance. Before somebody points out that it was a weaker magneto, that's false. When Moira Mactaggart examined magneto after Alpha reduced him to a child, she found out that the reason magneto was turned insane was because he was drawing too much power into himself.
Originally posted by abhilegendyeah... or there is no such weakness in his field anymore as exemplified and commented upon by the one he used to isolate himself while pulling shadowcat from space. his field has tanked cyke's blast directly without him controlling it a billion times since his first showing. the weak spot was a (retcon introduced) plot requirement that has never been seen in other stances.
Cyclops used all his powers on a little spot to breach magneto's field. He hasn't done that again since magneto often takes control of his optic blasts.
He has failed to affect the iron in bodies of Omerta who was class 10 at best due to his invulnerability and herculesnot quite, he tried to rip omerta apart, which failed, but he could have reversed the bloodflow to his brain, which he's done numerous times to others. omerta's strengh class has nothing to do with his invulnerability.
when did magneto try to iron rip hercules?