Black Lantern JLA Vs The Worthy

Started by -Pr-6 pages

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thas assuming the ring can override

the soul of the hammer, plus the serpent magic, It is not like the absorbing man is in control of his body,

You're assuming that AM can absorb and mimic it in the first place, and I don't think he can.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thas assuming the ring can override

the soul of the hammer, plus the serpent magic, It is not like the absorbing man is in control of his body,

The ring is able to control being far more powerful than both the Serpent and Odin.

Yeah, like Spectre and Swamp Thing.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Yeah, like Spectre and Swamp Thing.
but isn't b/c they are dead it can control them in the first place

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're assuming that AM can absorb and mimic it in the first place, and I don't think he can.
Absrobing man has done so to the Odinpower and the sentry/void powerset, He has not show a limit to what he can assorb only how much he does is were he runs into problems

He doesn't get a no-limit assumption, though.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He doesn't get a no-limit assumption, though.
Absorbing Man should be accorded the limits he's displayed on-panel. Which, so far, encompasses high-powered artifact weapons like Mjolnir. I find it hard to believe anybody would argue that a black ring's power lies beyond that. A black ring =/= Nekron anymore than Mjolnir =/= raw Odinforce. Except Creel actually absorbed the raw Odinforce's properties.
Originally posted by SquallX
The ring is able to control being far more powerful than both the Serpent and Odin.
So long as they're actually dead. Beyond that specific characteristic, you had someone like John Stewart mimicking a BL's power just fine without turning into a mindless slave to Nekron.

Lanterns stomp unless the worthy get serpent and the lanterns don't get swampthing, spectre, and Nekron

But seriously this is spite, both in power and numbers

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Lanterns stomp unless the worthy get serpent and the lanterns don't get swampthing, spectre, and Nekron

But seriously this is spite, both in power and numbers

Black Lantern JLA Vs The Worthy

Ah, still without a white light source, I have no idea how the worthy could put down a single bl jla member.

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Originally posted by ODG
Absorbing Man should be accorded the limits he's displayed on-panel. Which, so far, encompasses high-powered artifact weapons like Mjolnir. I find it hard to believe anybody would argue that a black ring's power lies beyond that. A black ring =/= Nekron anymore than Mjolnir =/= raw Odinforce. Except Creel actually absorbed the raw Odinforce's properties. So long as they're actually dead. Beyond that specific characteristic, you had someone like John Stewart mimicking a BL's power just fine without turning into a mindless slave to Nekron.

Last I checked, the Spectre is not dead. He's an entity, but the Soul that resides in the Spectre is dead.

IMO Grey Gargoyle is key here. He has the power to transmute them nto stone in a instant and therefore win it for the worthy. Other than that it would be a stalemate or BL win. Stalemate only because I don't think has anyone can stop kuurth.

Deathstrom has better transmutation feats

Also it's the rings that copy paste dead heroes so even if you turn a BL into stone and shatter it, the ring will simply reform it. The ring can't get transformed into stone cause it has no eyes.

Originally posted by SquallX
Last I checked, the Spectre is not dead. He's an entity, but the Soul that resides in the Spectre is dead.
The rings controlled those who had died. That was pretty much thrown onto the readers lap. You can't deny it.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
The ring can't get transformed into stone cause it has no eyes.
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Question, if absorbing man did copy the black lantern rings with no il effects what power/advantage would he gain from them?

And when it comes to gargoyle the assumption seems to be he will turn them to stone then break them enabling them to reconstruct themselves.. What if he just turned them to stone and let them be? I'd imagine only firestorm would be able to do something at that point and would have to deal with all of the worthy at once.

Am I missing something here?

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Question, if absorbing man did copy the black lantern rings with no il effects what power/advantage would he gain from them?

Nothing! He'd be under Nekron's control, like all the other BLs.

And when it comes to gargoyle the assumption seems to be he will turn them to stone then break them enabling them to reconstruct themselves.. What if he just turned them to stone and let them be? I'd imagine only firestorm would be able to do something at that point and would have to deal with all of the worthy at once.

Am I missing something here?


They'll just reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point. FODDER BLs were crushed into atoms and dragged into the molten core of a planet and they were STILL reforming.

If he turned them to stone and shattered them, they'd instantly reform. If he left them stone, they'd instantly reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point of them. You need to sever their connection to their ring to put them down.

^ Despite wholly ignoring (for some baffling reason) John Stewart not becoming a mindless slave when he mimicked the BL's power -- if Nekron isn't even in this thread to theoretically control him, it's not a relevant consideration to this thread.

Originally posted by SquallX
Last I checked, the Spectre is not dead. He's an entity, but the Soul that resides in the Spectre is dead.
But Spectre was bound to Crispus Allen who died. Hallax discovered this when he dove into BL Spectre and found his corpse taken by the black ring in Green Lantern #51: