Black Lantern JLA Vs The Worthy

Started by Zack Fair6 pages

Wonder Woman's love?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...so they have been turned to stone? Woooooowwwww.

They who? Just because one BL can be turned to stone, doesn't mean the others can, especially if they can use their powers.

^ They better fight with their eyes closed then.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Wonder Woman's love?
Lol, yea. Blackest Night #6. The newly deputized rings seek out new Lanterns, and even though BL Wonder Woman wasn't bathed in GL light, the violet ring latched onto Wonder Woman's love and severed the connection.

Originally posted by Golgo13
They who? Just because one BL can be turned to stone, doesn't mean the others can, especially if they can use their powers.

The proof is on you. Show us them overcoming transmutation.

Did the BL's show they can use their powers along with the ring? I know some did like Deathstorm.

^ Of course they did. They were fighting pretty well with their powers. Hell, Deathstorm was fighting better because normal Firestorm couldn't affect organics, but Deathstom could.

Originally posted by ODG
Speculation. Like some of you have pointed out, BLs reform instantly. BL Terra wasn't reforming or even beginning to reform at all. She was just stopped cold.

And where exactly should she reverse back? she's stone in 1 panel the next severs the connection.

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/BlackestNightWonderWoman1020021-1.jpg

these BLs came back too.

Originally posted by ODG
The BL rings/effects were hardly invincible or impervious to everything beyond the emotional spectrum. They were destroyed/severed by a variety of things. Negative Man's charge, Dr. Light's blast, Speedforce, Wonder Woman's love (lol), Osiris' shazam bolt, etc.
Originally posted by ODG
Lol, yea. Blackest Night #6. The newly deputized rings seek out new Lanterns, and even though BL Wonder Woman wasn't bathed in GL light, the violet ring latched onto Wonder Woman's love and severed the connection.
Just killed your own argument.

^ What argument? It was Wonder Woman's love that did it. No other Lantern ever severed their own connection without a color combo. Just another forced attempt to make Wonder Woman special.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae208/comics66/spoil/blackestnight/Outsiders25/30.jpg

And where exactly should she reverse back? she's stone in 1 panel the next severs the connection.

How about in the moment she's beginning to be transmuted in panel 1 as her scream of pain indicates. Or panel 2 as she's being transmuted? Or right after she's finished being transmuted in panel 3?

Brion's words and the plain presentation of the scene are self-evident. Brion states matter-of-factly, that Terra will be stone, forever. Brion isn't sh1tting his pants and wondering just how they're going to destroy the BL ring because she's about to reanimate.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/fangirl102/BlackestNightWonderWoman1020021-1.jpg

these BLs came back too.

What does this have to do with anything?

Originally posted by carver9
The proof is on you. Show us them overcoming transmutation.
Just priceless I'll use the same argument when someone knocks She-Hulk out to argue that the same punch knocks Hulk out.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Just killed your own argument.

How? That's merely him expanding/elaborating upon what he already said in the previous post, in response to Zack's query about WW's love.

Your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
How? That's merely him expanding/elaborating upon what he already said in the previous post, in response to Zack's query about WW's love.

Your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired.

You should adress me as soon as you have learned to read properly. And no he didn't if you want to smartass around at least be good at it.

But before you want to start shit here, and I know that this is gonna happen, here's why: He said Wonder Woman's love destroyed the ring concealing that it was actually a violet power ring and her turning into a violet lantern that severed the connection to the black ring. That's like saying Reed Richards gave Galactus a run for his money by pointing his finger at him, not mentioning that the ultimate Nullfifier (a plot device) did the actual work here.

To point this down besides light based powers and emotion infusing shit I can't recall a single instance of a BL getting killed. I'd like to see the Osiris scan because going by the fact that ODG concealed the power ring in his list or the fact that "the Speedforce" never actually destroyed a ring, Flash was merely outrunning the ring that it's lost track of him makes it very suspect.

EDIT: Also why even bring this up? Does the Worthy have access to the Speedforce? Or light based powers? emotions?

If you want to argue that the Worthy somehow will figure out a way to kill a BL / sever the connection, lol at you for accusing me of speculation.

Originally posted by ODG
Absorbing Man should be accorded the limits he's displayed on-panel. Which, so far, encompasses high-powered artifact weapons like Mjolnir. I find it hard to believe anybody would argue that a black ring's power lies beyond that. A black ring =/= Nekron anymore than Mjolnir =/= raw Odinforce. Except Creel actually absorbed the raw Odinforce's properties. So long as they're actually dead. Beyond that specific characteristic, you had someone like John Stewart mimicking a BL's power just fine without turning into a mindless slave to Nekron.

So what do you think would happen if Creel somehow managed to absorb the BL power?

Originally posted by carver9
@Zop Zop...

Just because Hulk resisted transmutation doesn't mean the Black Lanterns could as well unless you have someone showing they have the same resistance as Hulk. Scans.

Stop baiting.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Stop baiting.
Just ask him to post Hulks feat, because ironically he was turned completely into stone too and it took a while to revert, so could have done Terra if Halo wouldn't had severed the connection.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Stop baiting.

It's not his fault, I actually brought up the "Hulk vs Grey Gargoyle" thing in response to being "Atomized vs Transmuted".

Back on topic though, I noticed when the BLs were destroyed or right before being destroyed they were engaged by someone they had a strong emotional tie to :

BL Kal-L ------> Power Girl (first cousins)
BL Dr. Light ------> Dr. Light (children threatened)
BL Geo Force -------> Terra (sister)

Keep in mind, The Ray, an accomplished light manipulator, failed to kill any FODDER BLs with his white light attack, all he did was manage to bury them under tons of debris and he burned himself out in the process.

It seemed to me that if you don't have the White Light or Green Light + Any other Emotional Light, you MUST have some kind of emotional bond to the BL to sever their connection to their Ring with a light attack.

I don't see the Worthy being able to exploit this since NONE of the BLs have any kind of emotional tie to the Worthy.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
To point this down besides light based powers and emotion infusing shit I can't recall a single instance of a BL getting killed. I'd like to see the Osiris scan because going by the fact that ODG concealed the power ring in his list or the fact that "the Speedforce" never actually destroyed a ring, Flash was merely outrunning the ring that it's lost track of him makes it very suspect.
I just listed them. Read Power of Shazam #48 for shazam bolt destroying the rings. The Speedforce did destroy a ring. Barry freed BL Bart Allen in Black Night: Flash #3, you're thinking about when Barry earlier time traveled by 2 seconds. And I didn't conceal anything with the Wonder Woman love feat. Star Sapphires cannot sever connections on their own. So obviously, her power wasn't the cause of the connection being severed. Star Sapphire just tapped Wonder Woman's love and it was her love itself that severed the connection "because she loves the world more than anyone else."

If you're going to accuse me of lying, at least read the comics. Now feel free to sit down and shut up until you do.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
EDIT: Also why even bring this up? Does the Worthy have access to the Speedforce? Or light based powers? emotions?

If you want to argue that the Worthy somehow will figure out a way to kill a BL / sever the connection, lol at you for accusing me of speculation.

Somebody was asking how durable the rings were.

You aren't even making any sense. You obviously have only read the main event issues (if even that) and never read any of the tie-ins.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So what do you think would happen if Creel somehow managed to absorb the BL power?
Become this supposedly unstoppable BL and bring this thread to an endless stalemate based on the ridiculous no-limit fallacies being pushed onto the BLs regenerative properties. Or just tap into it like John Stewart and destroy all the BLs with his BL power like Jericho did. Or just even up the playing field.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's not his fault, I actually brought up the "Hulk vs Grey Gargoyle" thing in response to being "Atomized vs Transmuted".

Back on topic though, I noticed when the BLs were destroyed or right before being destroyed they were engaged by someone they had a strong emotional tie to :

BL Kal-L ------> Power Girl (first cousins)
BL Dr. Light ------> Dr. Light (children threatened)
BL Geo Force -------> Terra (sister)

Keep in mind, The Ray, an accomplished light manipulator, failed to kill any FODDER BLs with his white light attack, all he did was manage to bury them under tons of debris and he burned himself out in the process.

It seemed to me that if you don't have the White Light or Green Light + Any other Emotional Light, you MUST have some kind of emotional bond to the BL to sever their connection to their Ring with a light attack.

I don't see the Worthy being able to exploit this since NONE of the BLs have any kind of emotional tie to the Worthy.

So I should blame you too?

Originally posted by ODG
I just listed them. Read Power of Shazam #48 for shazam bolt destroying the rings. The Speedforce did destroy a ring. Barry freed BL Bart Allen in Black Night: Flash #3, you're thinking about when Barry earlier time traveled by 2 seconds. And I didn't conceal anything with the Wonder Woman love feat. Star Sapphires cannot sever connections on their own. So obviously, her power wasn't the cause of the connection being severed. Star Sapphire just tapped Wonder Woman's love and it was her love itself that severed the connection "because she loves the world more than anyone else."

If you're going to accuse me of lying, at least read the comics. Now feel free to sit down and shut up until you do. Somebody was asking how durable the rings were.

You aren't even making any sense. You obviously have only read the main event issues (if even that) and never read any of the tie-ins. Become this supposedly unstoppable BL and bring this thread to an endless stalemate based on the ridiculous no-limit fallacies being pushed onto the BLs regenerative properties. Or just tap into it like John Stewart and destroy all the BLs with his BL power like Jericho did. Or just even up the playing field.

Okay.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
You should adress me as soon as you have learned to read properly. And no he didn't if you want to smartass around at least be good at it.

This advice is far more applicable to yourself than to me. I am laughing out loudly and heartily at your silliness and tendency to self-pwn.
Originally posted by Parmaniac

But before you want to start shit here, and I know that this is gonna happen, here's why: He said Wonder Woman's love destroyed the ring concealing that it was actually a violet power ring and her turning into a violet lantern that severed the connection to the black ring. That's like saying Reed Richards gave Galactus a run for his money by pointing his finger at him, not mentioning that the ultimate Nullfifier (a plot device) did the actual work here.

I don't even need to address this inapplicable analogy with Reed and the Ultimate Nullifier because ODG already explained(yet again) the incident with Diana's love and the Black Ring:
Originally posted by ODG
And I didn't conceal anything with the Wonder Woman love feat. Star Sapphires cannot sever connections on their own. So obviously, her power wasn't the cause of the connection being severed. Star Sapphire just tapped Wonder Woman's love and it was her love itself that severed the connection "because she loves the world more than anyone else."

Ciao.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's not his fault, I actually brought up the "Hulk vs Grey Gargoyle" thing in response to being "Atomized vs Transmuted".

Back on topic though, I noticed when the BLs were destroyed or right before being destroyed they were engaged by someone they had a strong emotional tie to :

BL Kal-L ------> Power Girl (first cousins)
BL Dr. Light ------> Dr. Light (children threatened)
BL Geo Force -------> Terra (sister)

Keep in mind, The Ray, an accomplished light manipulator, failed to kill any FODDER BLs with his white light attack, all he did was manage to bury them under tons of debris and he burned himself out in the process.

It seemed to me that if you don't have the White Light or Green Light + Any other Emotional Light, you MUST have some kind of emotional bond to the BL to sever their connection to their Ring with a light attack.

I don't see the Worthy being able to exploit this since NONE of the BLs have any kind of emotional tie to the Worthy.

Do you see the Ray as one of the most formidable light/energy manipulators in comics?