Black Lantern JLA Vs The Worthy

Originally posted by zopzop

Nothing! He'd be under Nekron's control, like all the other BLs.

They'll just reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point. FODDER BLs were crushed into atoms and dragged into the molten core of a planet and they were STILL reforming.

If he turned them to stone and shattered them, they'd instantly reform. If he left them stone, they'd instantly reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point of them. You need to sever their connection to their ring to put them down. [/B]

Thanks for the explanation 😎

Originally posted by zopzop

Nothing! He'd be under Nekron's control, like all the other BLs.

They'll just reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point. FODDER BLs were crushed into atoms and dragged into the molten core of a planet and they were STILL reforming.

If he turned them to stone and shattered them, they'd instantly reform. If he left them stone, they'd instantly reconstitute their corpse form. That's the whole point of them. You need to sever their connection to their ring to put them down. [/B]

I understand the fodder bl were being destroyed and constantly reforming but i don't see how that is a transmutation reversal feat.

But you also said the rings would allow them to go back to normal if turned to solid stone. I can't remember if a BL was turned into something besides being blasted, melted, torn apart, or whatever and was able to change himself back to normal undead tissue. Kinda like if someon e has a crazy healing factor and can come back from anything i wouldn't assume he can resist or reverse being turned into something totally different.

I doubt GG can transmute someone like Deathstorm, who can do a lot worse to GG or MM who can use his powers.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I understand the fodder bl were being destroyed and constantly reforming but i don't see how that is a transmutation reversal feat.

But you also said the rings would allow them to go back to normal if turned to solid stone. I can't remember if a BL was turned into something besides being blasted, melted, torn apart, or whatever and was able to change himself back to normal undead tissue. Kinda like if someon e has a crazy healing factor and can come back from anything i wouldn't assume he can resist or reverse being turned into something totally different.

Transmuting them to stone, salt, etc... wouldn't be that different from atomizing them. In fact, reforming from being atomized >>>>>>>>>>>>>>feat then reconstituting their corpse form if transmuted to another element/substance.

The only way to end them is to break their connection to their Ring. This point was driven across throughout the entire Blackest Night event.

Forgot about Grey Gorg, he can mess some stuff up. Worthy wins. For one, don't see how they are dropping Kuurth or Nul...add on Absorbing man and Grey G, the worthies wins.

@Zop Zop...

Just because Hulk resisted transmutation doesn't mean the Black Lanterns could as well unless you have someone showing they have the same resistance as Hulk. Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
@Zop Zop...

Just because Hulk resisted transmutation doesn't mean the Black Lanterns could as well unless you have someone showing they have the same resistance as Hulk. Scans.

Show me any regen feat from the Hulk that matches that, then we'll talk.

Originally posted by carver9
don't see how they are dropping Kuurth

Originally posted by zopzop
FODDER BLs had the ability to totally reconstruct themselves from being ATOMIZED.

Show me any regen feat from the Hulk that matches that, then we'll talk.

Being atomized and being tranmuted are two different things. You need to provide proof showing they can resist transmutation and bringing up Hulk isn't that proof.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
While I can to a certain point agree with this, I love how you can somehow see the Worthy dropping beings that need emotional light or some kind of emotion inducing shit to take them out. Which clearly non of the Worthy has.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
While I can to a certain point agree with this, I love how you can somehow see the Worthy dropping beings that need emotional light or some kind of emotion inducing shit to take them out. Which clearly non of the Worthy has.

So they are resistant to blunt force.?

Originally posted by carver9
So they are resistant to blunt force.?

Originally posted by carver9
Being atomized and being tranmuted are two different things. You need to provide proof showing they can resist transmutation and bringing up Hulk isn't that proof.

Being atomized means being broken down into ATOMS. Being transmuted into another substance is less devastating than this because all you are doing is rearranging MOLECULES.

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/biobookchem1.html

Atoms are the smallest particle into which an element can be divided.

Molecules are compounds in which the elements are in definite, fixed ratios, as seen in Figure 12. Those atoms are held together usually by one of the three types of chemical bonds discussed above. For example: water, glucose, ATP. Mixtures are compounds with variable formulas/ratios of their components. For example: soil. Molecular formulas are an expression in the simplest whole-number terms of the composition of a substance. For example, the sugar glucose has 6 Carbons, 12 hydrogens, and 6 oxygens per repeating structural unit. The formula is written C6H12O6.

So being transformed into granite or stone which is nothing more than changing the combination of their MOLECULES is LESS than what they've already, ON PANEL, reconstituted from.

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I don't get what all these arguments are about. Geo-Force turned BL Terra into stone.

Originally posted by carver9
Being atomized and being tranmuted are two different things. You need to provide proof showing they can resist transmutation and bringing up Hulk isn't that proof.

How is he going to transmute someone who can turn intangible? Can he resist transmutation himself?

Originally posted by ODG
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I don't get what all these arguments are about. Geo-Force turned BL Terra into stone.

Originally posted by ODG
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I don't get what all these arguments are about. Geo-Force turned BL Terra into stone.

Oh Wow I totally forgot all about that.
If that can be accepted as a means of KO and the such then wouldnt it come down to the individual durability/resistance to being turned to stone by the individual characters in question such as Martian manhunter and firestorm.

Is their no magic Or ability associated with the worthy than could be used here? Are the rings resistant to brute strength? As in can't be crushed or destroyed with force.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
If this is a solution for the main prob stays unclear. The ring was destroyed by Halo. Actually the fact that Halo destroyed the ring hints that turning her to stone wouldn't got the job donw.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Oh Wow I totally forgot all about that.
If that can be accepted as a means of KO and the such then wouldnt it come down to the individual durability/resistance to being turned to stone by the individual characters in question such as Martian manhunter and firestorm.

Is their no magic Or ability associated with the worthy than could be used here? Are the rings resistant to brute strength? As in can't be crushed or destroyed with force.

IGN Comics: So the black rings definitely have some limitations of what they can affect?

Johns: Well, they're pretty powerful. There are very few things they can't affect. Magic is a joke to them. But Don Hall is quite the opposite…

Originally posted by ODG
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I don't get what all these arguments are about. Geo-Force turned BL Terra into stone.

Lol...so they have been turned to stone? Woooooowwwww.

^ Yes. Which made these past few arguments baffling.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
If this is a solution for the main prob stays unclear. The ring was destroyed by Halo. Actually the fact that Halo destroyed the ring hints that turning her to stone wouldn't got the job donw.

Originally posted by SevenShackles
Oh Wow I totally forgot all about that.
If that can be accepted as a means of KO and the such then wouldnt it come down to the individual durability/resistance to being turned to stone by the individual characters in question such as Martian manhunter and firestorm.

Is their no magic Or ability associated with the worthy than could be used here? Are the rings resistant to brute strength? As in can't be crushed or destroyed with force.

The BL rings/effects were hardly invincible or impervious to everything beyond the emotional spectrum. They were destroyed/severed by a variety of things. Negative Man's charge, Dr. Light's blast, Speedforce, Wonder Woman's love (lol), Osiris' shazam bolt, etc.

Even another Black Lantern in control of themselves can destroy other Black Lanterns (Jericho did this). Which is why Greithoth (Absorbing Man) absorbing their BL properties is an interesting and viable gambit.