DE Sidious -vs- The Emperor (Lord Vitiate)

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Go to sleep.

Meetra would have killed the Vitiate if she threw her saber at him ( no morals ) and if Scourge didn't backstab her either. He barely even noticed her saber flying to hit the other saber. After the door opened, Revan ran to the Emperor by himself. The other two were busy fighting some Imperial Guards in the mean time.

Ripping and moving multiple Sith Essences
Ripping and moving Essences from others ( lemelisk multiple times )
Transporting his Essence light years across via wormhole ( it can fold space )
Transported Luke via same ability
Essence able to survive and remain there
Essence trapped forever by thousands of Jedi spirits ( Vitiate seems to have faded completely upon his death with no further intervention from the group when they fled )
Able to move freely without being tethered to the physical plane ( doesn't need to be in a temple )
When the latter is moving in spirit form, he's doing so to possess a body already prepared for him.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
( Vitiate seems to have faded completely upon his death with no further intervention from the group when they fled )

Almost certainly not true. The Emperor's Children can still hear his voice in their heads. It appears that he's throwing a temper tantrum or something, raving about boiling Manaan etc. Or he might just be insane. He's out of the game, but he can crawl his way back in if he can get a hold of himself (and he probably will).

Or they could just be hallucinating.

Which is preferable, since returning from the dead only cements this guy further as Palpatine's pale imitation.

Try something original, folks.

They're not hallucinating. Somethings clearly happening since they need to go and get themselves protected from his maddened voice or they die.

They're definitely not hallucinating. As the Emperor's children, they're the sole authority of whether or not they are hearing the Emperor's voice. Not to mention, he doesn't die against the Hero of Tython but travels back to his original body to slumber and recoup.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Meetra would have killed the Vitiate if she threw her saber at him ( no morals ) and if Scourge didn't backstab her either. He barely even noticed her saber flying to hit the other saber. After the door opened, Revan ran to the Emperor by himself. The other two were busy fighting some Imperial Guards in the mean time.

So what?

Dying at the hands of Meetra would be better then dying at the hands of a Jedi named Brand.

Sidious's demise is extremely anti-climatic.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
Ripping and moving multiple Sith Essences
Ripping and moving Essences from others ( lemelisk multiple times )
Transporting his Essence light years across via wormhole ( it can fold space )
Transported Luke via same ability
Essence able to survive and remain there
Essence trapped forever by thousands of Jedi spirits ( Vitiate seems to have faded completely upon his death with no further intervention from the group when they fled )
Able to move freely without being tethered to the physical plane ( doesn't need to be in a temple )
When the latter is moving in spirit form, he's doing so to possess a body already prepared for him.

Tenebrae had no issue with shifting his essence from host to host; he possessed many individuals during his life time. Heck, he simultaneously controlled and influenced many individuals in his life time with his powers and he could so from lightyear distances.

Also, Tenebrae's story is incomplete. Give it time.

And should I remind you that it took Sidious one year to acquire a host after his mortal death in Endor and this too with aid of several Sith spirits? It took Sidious even more time to gather his power afterwards and then strike back again.

Stop unnecessarily hyping Sidious.

Meh, until I see something concrete, I'll maintain my hope that it's either hallucination or some residual essence or whisper a la KOTOR 2's holocrons.

Narratively, there's nothing to gain by his reemergence anyway.

You don't need to see anything concrete. How is it that the emperor's children always hear the emperor's voice in their head throughout their lives and throughout TOR and it's actually tangible, but this time it's a hallucination?

Psychic feedback from his unintended death?

Note that I'm not saying that this is actually the case, merely a possible explanation for the superior alternative: That Vitiate really is dead and they can move on rather than shamelessly aping an infinitely superior and iconic villain.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Psychic feedback from his unintended death?

Note that I'm not saying that this is actually the case, merely a possible explanation for the superior alternative: That Vitiate really is dead and they can move on rather than shamelessly aping an infinitely superior and iconic villain.


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SWTOR Encyclopedia offers hints that Tenebrae is alive.

I think he was briefly mentioned as being dead in the Darth Plagueis book (2012.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
I think he was briefly mentioned as being dead in the Darth Plagueis book (2012.

Their is enormous timeline gap here. Also, this revelation isn't infallible.

Point is that Tenebrae didn't die during his second encounter with HoT; his essence ejected from his avatar in a cut scene. Unless this essence is contained or something; Tenebrae isn't stopped.

Originally posted by pencilcrayon
I think he was briefly mentioned as being dead in the Darth Plagueis book (2012.

Thats what "Plagueis" wants us to think.

Bane wasn't even the first. It was always the true master: Godhead Vitiate of Many Faces.

Neph, is LeGenD addressing me?

He's rolling his eyes at you.

All four of them?

Eyes?

No, dicks.