Originally posted by Lestov16H2H, Bauer 8/10. Guns, Bauer 7/10.What are your thoughts about Bauer vs McClane? I gave Bauer 7/10 for the H2H and CQB, and McClane 6.5/10 for gunfights. Do you agree with this assessment?
Dodged bullets from an automatic fired by a battle-hardened dhampir who can lift his arm to shoot before she can even blink? I don't think so.She dodged three groups of bullets. One of the 3 groups were rapid fire. Blade never did this.
Originally posted by The Fat Rambo
H2H, Bauer 8/10. Guns, Bauer 7/10.
Sounds about right. I forgot about Jack's perfect accuracy in taking out an entire Russian Consulate security outfit about 90 seconds after being stabbed in the ribs (right before becoming the deadliest threat mankind has ever faced). Have you seen any 24 lately? I gotta start rewatching.
You must realize that Blade's vampiric physiology means that he can effortlessly outmaneuver her and unload clips into her before she has time to reach for her gun. It's not that she has to dodge bullets, it's that she has to outmaneuver Blade himself, which, due to his outright superhuman nature, will not happen.
Originally posted by The Fat RamboWhat makes you think it's not even close ?
Jedi TK>>>>>Wizard TK. It's not even close.It's OK, I was once in denial about this as you are now.
Tell me, how do you see this battle playing out?
You actually agreed with me on this.
She dodged bullets, he didn't. Pretty cut and dry there.
I see the wizards destroying them from mid range.
Originally posted by The Fat RamboI am saying it's not likely at all. It's like me saying Voldemort cuts them with his wand slash movement. Or he gestures their lightsabers right out of their hands. Arguing a feat or so as the majority of one's argument is silly. Dumbledore shoots multiple fireballs up their asses ala Half Blood Prince style.
You saying that it is not within the realm of their capabilities?
Originally posted by quanchi112Right, and the Jedi just sit there and:
I am saying it's not likely at all. It's like me saying Voldemort cuts them with his wand slash movement. Or he gestures their lightsabers right out of their hands. Arguing a feat or so as the majority of one's argument is silly. Dumbledore shoots multiple fireballs up their asses ala Half Blood Prince style.
A: Not use TK to retrieve their sabers, and
B: Bend over and let fire be shot up their ass.
Sure. 🙄
Originally posted by The Fat RamboI wonder how many posts in the past have you been responsible for arguing the wizards dominate the jedi only to see you completely change your tune. The jedi simply have never experienced anything like a highly skilled Harry Potter wizard.
Right, and the Jedi just sit there and:A: Not use TK to retrieve their sabers, and
B: Bend over and let fire be shot up their ass.
Sure. 🙄
Without their sabers even for 5 seconds puts them in an extremely vulnerable position. They aren't going to have a choice in the matter.
Originally posted by RobtardThey never close the gap due to Dumbledore and Voldemort's attacks from mid range. Dumbledore can pinpoint hit beings underwater while weakened attacking Harry. Imagine what he can do with a team of wizards along with Voldemort who can Avada Kedavra them, giant fire snake, or giant fireball them.
Oh my, another "wizards are on a whole nother level" type of post, just reworded.Jedi and Sith win this. It's been shown.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They never close the gap due to Dumbledore and Voldemort's attacks from mid range. Dumbledore can pinpoint hit beings underwater while weakened attacking Harry. Imagine what he can do with a team of wizards along with Voldemort who can Avada Kedavra them, giant fire snake, or giant fireball them.
IDK. Palp was swinging around those Senate Pods with good ease. And the combat-precog, which I don't think I've ever seen a non-force user counter.
Originally posted by Lestov16And we see Voldemort effortlessly move a giant with little to no effort either. Precog has always been overrated. Watch order 66 enacted the jedi all fall save Yoda and Obi due to chance.
IDK. Palp was swinging around those Senate Pods with good ease. And the combat-precog, which I don't think I've ever seen a non-force user counter.
Originally posted by juggermanThey didn't know who was behind it but we can see Yoda's precog kick in before they tried killing him. The other jedi fell despite some even fending off some laser fire.
Explained by the "cloud" the darkside caused. The wizards have no such advantage.
The dark side just clouded his identity if a threat loomed their precog was still in effect.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They didn't know who was behind it but we can see Yoda's precog kick in before they tried killing him. The other jedi fell despite some even fending off some laser fire.The dark side just clouded his identity if a threat loomed their precog was still in effect.
Yoda also felt the other Jedi dying so he had a reason to be on alert. None of the others did iirc. The precog is used in defense of themselves mostly and when you're surrounded by "allies" you may not feel in danger and therefore aren't using/accessing it at the moment.
Originally posted by juggermanThe others felt something imo and a few even started defending themselves so the precog was definitely in full effect in combat.
Yoda also felt the other Jedi dying so he had a reason to be on alert. None of the others did iirc. The precog is used in defense of themselves mostly and when you're surrounded by "allies" you may not feel in danger and therefore aren't using/accessing it at the moment.
I can list other occasions where precog as outright failed while locked in mutual combat.
Anakin rushing Dooku and being force blasted into submission.
Yoda staring at Palpatine slowly raise his hands before blasting him.
Anakin jumping despite warnings from Obi himself before cutting limbs off.
Need I go on ? Precog fails and badly at that.