Originally posted by Lestov16
Even if the Jedi don't have precog, they still undoubtedly have the reflexes to block blaster bolts, which in itself is more than enough to outdraw the wizards
There's a scene where Anakin blocks a shot aimed at his back without looking.
Even ignoring stuff like that, it's outright stated Force users have battle precog. So arguing that they don't or that precog is useless in a fight is just crying.
Originally posted by Lestov16I am not saying they don't have it I am saying against highly skilled opponents it's failed in laughable fashion.
Even if the Jedi don't have precog, they still undoubtedly have the reflexes to block blaster bolts, which in itself is more than enough to outdraw the wizards
Originally posted by RobtardThey aren't facing random blaster fire here. Against the scrubs of the film sure they look superior as they are intended. You could literally find examples in every fight against two skilled warriors of precog not only failing but in embarrassing fashion.
A few scenes isn't greater than every single time we see Jedi block blaster fire. Which is a lot throughout the films. But you go on ignoring the greater majority, cos otherwise your argument holds even less water.Force > wizards. /fact
Magic>>>force. Fact. Anything you do I can do better.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They aren't facing random blaster fire here. Against the scrubs of the film sure they look superior as they are intended. You could literally find examples in every fight against two skilled warriors of precog not only failing but in embarrassing fashion.Magic>>>force. Fact. Anything you do I can do better.
Your paltry examples where against other Force users who have precog too. So you failed again as you always do when trying to downplay Star Wars. Which is your only tactic here. Downplaying.
Nope; it's been shown. Jedi to Wizard in a fight, Jedi win more times than naught, they have the power-set. You can cry better here, that's about it.
Originally posted by RobtardI have given examples of them being executed in order 66. The star wars fans make up excuses and say precog. It's an awful debating tactic. You can continue to pretend these aren't valid examples. False. Elite wizards crush elite jedi. General wizards still beat general jedi.
Your paltry examples where against other Force users who have precog too. So you failed again as you always do when trying to downplay Star Wars. Which is your only tactic here. Downplaying.Nope; it's been shown. Jedi to Wizard in a fight, Jedi win more times than naught, they have the power-set. You can cry better here, that's about it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have given examples of them being executed in order 66. The star wars fans make up excuses and say precog. It's an awful debating tactic. You can continue to pretend these aren't valid examples. False. Elite wizards crush elite jedi. General wizards still beat general jedi.
You can pretend that what's been explicitly stated on film and the far numerous times precog has worked doesn't exist or don't matter, but it doesn't make it so. Your argument is nothing more than a downplay and a last ditch effort to have your favorite franchise win something.
"Procog sucks in a fight!!1'. So petty.
Originally posted by RobtardIt does work against crappy opponents. Against skilled ones it's looked downright silly. The two greatest Palp and Yoda is the best example. Human level reaction and common sense should tell Yoda to defend himself but instead he lets him zap him. Precog is what fanboys cling to.
You can pretend that what's been explicitly stated on film and the far numerous times precog has worked doesn't exist or don't matter, but it doesn't make it so. Your argument is nothing more than a downplay and a last ditch effort to have your favorite franchise win something."Procog sucks in a fight!!1'. So petty.
Order 66 wiped out all but a few jedi. Laughable.
Originally posted by RobtardI already laid out a scenario that you ignored. It's just so laughably obvious when a sneak attack such as order 66 wiped the board of all but a few jedi. Precog, doood!!!!!!
It's telling how you have to constantly resort to nonsense downplaying tactics of the Force users instead of illustrating how the wizards win due to their supposed superiority here. Cowardly tactics.
Wizards stomp. Fact. RJ was too afraid to see this through and caved in before the pressure.
Originally posted by Lestov16I think Voldemort/Dumbledore showed far greater combat reflexes than any jedi/sith in their six movies. They are experts in mid range combat whereas Jedi/Sith are not. They want to kill you with their swords but that won't be happening here.
The wizards may have more visually impressive powers, but the Jedi's combat speed and reflexes (precog or not) guarantee their win.
Originally posted by quanchi112Wow, dude......Every time I think you have a clue, something like this happens.
I already laid out a scenario that you ignored. It's just so laughably obvious when a sneak attack such as order 66 wiped the board of all but a few jedi. Precog, doood!!!!!!Wizards stomp. Fact. RJ was too afraid to see this through and caved in before the pressure.