Team Wiz vs Team Force

Started by Lestov1623 pages

If they did, how good were their chances be? I don't want to make a curbstomp thread.

They'd win, ie there would be at least one Jedi or Sith at the end.

So it's only due to their lightning fast reflexes, rather than superior power, that they win?

Originally posted by Lestov16
So it's only due to their lightning fast reflexes, rather than superior power, that they win?

Force Precog isn't their Force enhanced reflexes. Precog allows them to maximize their reflexes. It allows them to be proactive instead of reactive. "He [Anakin] can see things before they happen. That's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It's a Jedi trait." - Qui-On Jinn

Any Jedi/Sith (esp Sith) here can kill or cripple any wizard here with one hit and any wizard here can kill or cripple any Jedi/Sith here with one hit. Speed and first attack matters here.

Originally posted by Robtard
Speed and first attack matters here.
You sure you wanna go with this?

There's also the fact that many Wizard spells require a flourish of the wrist at the least, and many times a shout. And most spells are highly visible and easily avoidable for a jedi.

Lol, once again, for the umpteenth time, not all spells require that. Snape for example, can spell faster than and Jedi can force attack.

Originally posted by Casper Whitey
Lol, once again, for the umpteenth time, not all spells require that. Snape for example, can spell faster than and Jedi can force attack.

Read my post, I said many, not all.

And he can attack faster than a quick gesture(Force TK or Lightning?)

And any visible spell is slow enough to be dodged by a Jedi.

Originally posted by KingD19
Read my post, I said many, not all.

And he can attack faster than a quick gesture(Force TK or Lightning?)

And any visible spell is slow enough to be dodged by a Jedi.

Yes, faster than force lightning and/or force TK. Need a vid?

Originally posted by KingD19
Read my post, I said many, not all.

And he can attack faster than a quick gesture(Force TK or Lightning?)

And any visible spell is slow enough to be dodged by a Jedi.

That might be true for Hogwarts students but not for the veteran wizards listed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GK7JnKelJA
Harry needs to utter the incantations, Snape doesn't. Neither use fancy gestures. Even with his back turned, he blocks the spell and Harry's on his ass in a second.

This is a moot point anyway, waving your arm to cast a spell is the same as using them to perform Choke or Lightning. They don't instantly kill, with choke you have to hold them in place and choke them out. A wizard could interrupt that by casting a spell back.

LoL, the thought that telekinesis that can be used to exert tons and tons of force now suddenly can't be used (by Sith) to instantly break a neck or crush a throat, should they choose that.

Anyhow, Luke choked out to unconsciousness two Gamorrean's simultaneously in a few seconds, he wasn't even a fully trained Jedi.

Yeah, Yoda and Darth Sidious were slinging around multi-ton senate pods and Yoda/Dooku were battling with that huge power coupling.

Yoda also pulled the X-Wing out of the swamp. The Force Choke has to be done in a certain way to choke someone into unconsciousness, but a Force User could easily break a neck in an instant.

There's a difference between holding something up and grabbing/crushing something.

So they can use the Force to hold up tons and tons of weight, but can't apply that in a crushing grip? Even though they've been shown to do just that?

That's why there's a Force Technique specifically called Force Crush.

Originally posted by KingD19
So they can use the Force to hold up tons and tons of weight, but can't apply that in a crushing grip? Even though they've been shown to do just that?

That's why there's a Force Technique specifically called Force Crush.

Oh so you can guarantee they can do that? That they can apply the same exact force behind a force choke as they can a force push? I mean you have proof of this, yes?

Moot point, wizards can apparate. Instantly and stuff.

Yes. It's why Grievous has that asthmatic cough. Because Mace Windu applied tons of TK force(needed because of how durable his chassis is) to crush his chest plate and his organs inside.

There are other examples that while not happening in the movie, are acknowledged to have happened and are canon even in the movie-verse.

OK let's compare the amount of TK required to lift an X Wing to the amount of TK required to crush a windpipe.

My math sucks, so whatever figures you come up with I'll trust lol.

Something like 25lbs of pressure PSI can snap a neck.

An X-Wing weighs 30,000lbs.

I lost interest.

I guess Casper's becoming the new RJ.