Originally posted by The MISTER
you're right of course, but can't one conclude that anyone who desires genocide is definitely a racist? Racism is an extreme stance.
Originally posted by Omega Visionreplace "violent wholesale death" with "disappearance " and that would be my position on how a "racist" feels about the race that they despise.
I suppose so, but your position seemed to be that racists had to desire the violent wholesale death of a certain race, which isn't really the case. There are racists who aren't particularly violent and would rather that other races simply leave.
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
Originally posted by amity75
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
You racist, laser targeting locked on your house, we're gonna drop a 747 on Scotland and blame a Libyan. If that fails, "Drone Strike!"
Originally posted by amity75
i'm going to be honest here, I'm a reluctant racist. I abhor racism but do I want a family of Pakistanis living next door to me? No, I don't. Do I shop in stores owned by Pakistanis? No, I don't. Though if I saw someone giving a Pakistani racist abuse I'd be the first to punch f*ck out of that person. weird.
This is perfectly normal. You understand that your cultures are different and separate. However you still respect them as human beings. This is really how everyone should be. Racism implies oppression and hatred but just choosing to support, love, and prefer your own people in everything you do is most decidedly NOT racist. No matter what anyone else tells you, not accepting foreign cultures completely doesn't make you racist, it makes you smart. You can respect other races and cultures while still preserving your own heritage, people, genetics, culture, and way of life. People who believe otherwise are traitors to their people and destined to fade away meaninglessly.
Originally posted by Cyner
This is perfectly normal. You understand that your cultures are different and separate. However you still respect them as human beings. This is really how everyone should be. Racism implies oppression and hatred but just choosing to support, love, and prefer your own people in everything you do is most decidedly NOT racist.
No, it's called snobby elitism.
No matter what anyone else tells you, not accepting foreign cultures completely doesn't make you racist, it makes you smart. You can respect other races and cultures while still preserving your own heritage, people, genetics, culture, and way of life. People who believe otherwise are traitors to their people and destined to fade away meaninglessly.
See, you just misconstrued multiculturalism with being snobby.
Originally posted by Dolos
No, it's called snobby elitism.
everyone should be treated equally under the law. Treating others as you'd like to be treated is also very important. However that doesn't mean you blindly accept everything that comes out of their culture.
Loving your own culture or race is not implicitly hating another. So please don't force cultural destruction on others. It's obviously already destroyed you and I'd rather you not infect anyone else.
Originally posted by Dolos
See, you just misconstrued multiculturalism with being snobby.
Because multiculturalism was SUPPOSED to be about respecting all people but instead it's about FORCING others to accept everything from every other culture. This is the antithesis of survival and leads to the destruction of races, cultures, ethnicities, nationalities, and produces people with no identity and who cling to anything that gives them even a little bit of identity. Whether that's religion, politics, hobbies, gangs, or hateful ideologies.
I don't want to argue with you.
But my belief is in willingness to change. To lose, and to gain to again. Without change we are stagnant, and after losing a belief that can limit us we are free from it.
I also cannot look at another person's belief without giving him or her the benefit of the doubt, and looking at it without biasm even if it deviates from everything I've been told.
There are some truths in everything, and truth exists beyond your comfort zone whether you shut it off or not.
Originally posted by Dolos
I don't want to argue with you.But my belief is in willingness to change. To lose, and to gain to again. Without change we are stagnant, and after losing a belief that can limit us we are free from it.
I also cannot look at another person's belief without giving him or her the benefit of the doubt, and looking at it without biasm even if it deviates from everything I've been told.
There are some truths in everything, and truth exists beyond your comfort zone whether you shut it off or not.
I like that you're really open to change and different beliefs, but the difference between us is vast. See I spent half my life in the most diverse city in the entire U.S., a place where multiculturalism isn't just an ideology but a way of life. It wasn't even discussed because it was a fact of life, with nothing that challenged it. In order to come to the beliefs I have now, I had to be open minded more than anyone else. I had to be willing to change what I was raised with for most of my life, to say after intense study that everything I knew for most of my life and what had been drilled into me for my entire public school and college career was not only wrong but directly destructive to all respective entities involved.
I think it's great that you are very open to both open spirituality and scientific objective facts. It's obvious though that you're still naive, and that being an old man as I am, I may have a bit of an edge.
do tell by which mecanisms miscigenation "destroys" all those involved. provide examples too.
the fact of the matter is that very few nations on the planet are ethnically uniform and all contemporary ethnicties and nationalities were born from miscigenation, assimilation and synthesis of previous groups. all societies are dynamic, losing and acquiring new traits all the time. this process is an unavoidable fact of life and it will continue throughout history. it happens at a faster pace in so-called immigration melting pots like contemporary Brazil, USA and Canada. especially so, if beyond coexistence of multiple ethnic clusters, ethnic mergere itself is a (valued) cultural trait of the pot.