Originally posted by Omega Visionits not just in kmc either. white nationalist folk love to claim they aint racist and anti-racism means anti-white.
Almost none of the prolific racists on KMC have admitted to being racist. It's always someone else's fault if their views are interpreted as such, or the people they hate "deserve" it, as was Majid's case.
Originally posted by 753
ohrly? define that expression
What's actually going on:
Cultural Marxism is the application of marxist ideology to cultural and social aspects of a society.
So instead of having just class warfare, you create warfare for every difference imaginable. Such as gender, race, class, ethnicity, etc.
miscigentaion does not deny anyone its identity. individuals identify and feel a sense of pertinence to several groupings and communities all the time. you probably view yourself as a hispanic and an american without any incompatible conflict between those two identities. the same goes for pertinence to class, religious group, sex, ethnicity and nationality.lol at a sense of genetic identity. indentification with culture (language, religion, customs), political group and nationality is often a much more prevalent determinant of group identity than phenotypical similarity to a population's average phenotype.
Yes people can consider themselves part of several groups at once. However the first identity anyone has is that of their parents and themselves. What do I look like? Does it match my parents? Does it match my community? This is what people build their identity on. First and foremost people will identify themselves on race and culture and the nation they are citizens of(along with nearly every other identity) is secondary.
I never said anything about a "sense of genetic identity". The identity I was referring to was the sense of belonging to a community. It's pretty easy to determine a persons genetics by looks alone and someone who's "mixed" will be easily identifiable in communities. Thus this person can easily be singled out, and it happens frequently.
Most people have nowadays have no clue about who their ancestors were, who they themselves are, what their culture represents, or the history of their race or culture. This creates people who latch onto anything that gives them an identity or sense of self. Whether that's a religion, ideology, state/national identity, or any other artificial identity. People will then latch onto this idea or subculture and because that ideology is what they base themselves on, they won't expand their mind to change or improve ideas they already hold. Any challenge to their current ideas is a personal attack on them, any person holding the opposing view is demonized. This is precisely why much religious and political strife exists right now, even among those who are supposed to share a national identity. People can no longer even hold a decent conversation without devolving into personal attacks.
let's examine your ethnicity: hispanic. the product of miscigenation between spaniards and amerindians. the language that identifies your cultural background is the language of the colonizer. are you devoid of identity, halfbreed? obvisouly not. miscigenation created the group you would one day identify with. all group identity is dynamic because all social groups are dynamic, they splinter and merge all the time. it is unavoidable. this is not tantamount to subjugation of one group by another. all your desire for purity leads to is intergroup violence.the widespread destruction of amerindian culture did not result from miscigenation either as your line of argumentation would imply, but from violent subjugation, which is quite the opposite of multicultural projects.
Miscegenation is why the Taino culture no longer exists, and the reason why we'll never meet a true Taino. It wasn't violence that eventually destroyed them but mixing between the Spaniards and Africans that came to their islands. It would be like if the native americans were not only killed but also purposely bred out of existence.
Culture doesn't change because of violence from another group(unless the people of said culture are completely killed), I would argue that violence against that group would only would only reinforce that culture. It's the blending of cultures that often replaces the one with the smaller population with the one with the larger population.
Now of course I identify with the product of miscegenation that is my current race and culture. However between the Taino, Spaniards, and Africans, there have been over 500 years of that mix and it's created a race all it's own. The problem now of course is that there are a grand total of about 8 million of us in the entire world. Don't we deserve the right to exist as a people and culture? A right to not blend this unique mix of race and culture out of existence? To not drown out the last of the bloodline of the Tainos?
LMAO at you claiming outbreeding produces less healthy offspring among humans. this is just sad. find me published studies on exogamic depression on the populational scale among humans. records on endogamic depression abound on the other hand. btw how is your health as a product of miscigenation?
Outbreeding Depression has been proven to exist in both plants and animals. What makes humans so special that we can avoid something that exists in every other living thing? I doubt evolution has been so nice to us. If you're really interested in the subject, you know where google is. A rudimentary search provided plenty of info for myself and I'm sure it can for you also. I doubt your opinion would be changed by anything I post, confide in yourself if you really care about the truth.
distrust and stryfe among communities? for every example you quote, I can show another of coexistence. the fact that intergroup conflict exists does not invalidate the existence of multiethnic states.
Yes, usually the most violent places are also the most ethnically diverse. Even among ethnicities that don't differ an enormous amount. Places like Colombia, Brazil, Iraq, Chicago, and the District of Colombia have a very diverse and also very violent population. New York has been able to crack down on violence by operating like a police state, which may or may not be good, depending on your outlook. The fact that multiethnic states exist does not invalidate the existence of inter-ethnic strife being a very large contributor to violence, especially within those states.
although social inequality is severe (albeit diminishing) in Brazil, it cannot, nor could it since slavery, be described as a caste system. people of mixed race arent at the bottom either. you see, while whites (as understood in brazil) concentrate more economic power than blacks and amerindians, brazilian whites carry on average 33% alleles of indigenous and 27% alleles of african origin on the maternal bloodline. brazilian blacks carry 50% european alleles on the paternal lineage on average. moreover, signficant large portions of the population identified as white wouldnt be considered white in the usa, because of the one drop rule. during the times of slaverey the children of europeans and africans were free and considered "white" for political and social status purposes. this alones debunks your bullshit.the reason for skin color correlation with wealth today is the historical perpetuation of wealth and power inequality between the original stock populations: blacks were slaves, duh. misgenation is not a casue of social stratification in Brazil. at all.
[quote]You're right that the official caste system is gone but people continue to be affected by this system and even self classify. Because a person's past genetics can still be determined by their looks, as a social and cultural phenomena, the caste system still exists. Though it is, like you said, somewhat diminishing.
[quote] and the root cause is multiculturalism, not xenophobia. good to know.
The problem as I stated before is that in the U.S.A., multiculturalism is forced.
Dictionary definitions of xenophobia include: deep-rooted, irrational hatred towards foreigners (Oxford English Dictionary; OED), unreasonable fear or hatred of the unfamiliar.(Webster's)
Somehow I doubt mexicans in california have an irrational fear of their neighbors. Maybe it's just two ethnic groups that just don't get along very well and like most groups prefer to live with those of the same ethnicity and culture. I would certainly say they are going about that the wrong way though.
you are somewhat right. I'm mixed as mutt, my skincolor is white. I'm well educated and was born in the middle class, everyone in my family works for a living and so do I. you are right on the spot that I dont give flying **** about my fellow whites, though. my sense of identity isn't centered around race. at all. of course neither are most people's, in my country. I know race is a much bigger deal in the usa though.
Here it is. You are a mixed white, with no connection to your ancestors, culture, or ethnicity. I may be wrong but I'm going to guess that your identity is found in more artificial constructs or ideologies. Things like the state or an ideology can change at any time, and if it's ideas that define you, those should be evolving and changing all the time.
thats all nice and noble. do you think interethnic cooperation is bound to failure then? do black youths reject your help?
I don't think that inter-ethnic cooperation is bound to failure. People of different backgrounds can work together for a common good. The problem comes when they are expected to relinquish their ethnicity, culture, heritage, ancestry, or identity for the sake of someone else's or the sake of some supposedly utopian society.
Black youths certainly don't reject my help when it comes to the food pantry or tutoring. However they prefer another black person when it comes to mentoring. Otherwise, they may not reject you outright but mentally they will close themselves off.
TL : DR
you and most xenophobes project your experiences onto the worldat large. you don't stand for self-determination in the face of oppression, you stand for segregation along race lines and abhor admixture of any kind. all the more ironic given your "race" is mixed as ****.no matter how much you claim you're all for every race doing their thing, the racial purity ideals you spouse are the very root of racial clensing.
No I don't project it onto the world at large. Originally I did, but as time went on, I instead observed the world and changed my ideas and myself based on the objective realities I saw there.
I'm not a "xenophobe", I don't fear or hate people from outside my culture or race. I just prefer my own. I can't understand why that's a crime in the western world nowadays. Yes I like my culture and people the best, that doesn't mean I think your people are horrible, it just means I enjoy my own the most. I'd rather not see it disappear or be destroyed.
I'm not some La Raza, Black Panther, Klu Klux Klan sort of psychopath. However the reality is that Outbreeding depression really does exist and for the majority of people it's going to be a bad deal. Some races are much closer to each other than others and for them it wouldn't be bad to mix. For others they are too inbred and getting some diversity in there would result in Hybrid Vigor and enhance them. By not telling people that Outbreeding depression is a serious reality and a fact of life you are doing a disservice to those it would help. Seriously, don't be as bad as some of the people I have to deal with where you're either for us or against us, when the reality is much more complex.
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ohrly?
lol at
halfbreed
LMAO
btw how is your health
duh
good to know
thats all nice and noble
xenophobes
You really are pretentious.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Almost none of the prolific racists on KMC have admitted to being racist. It's always someone else's fault if their views are interpreted as such, or the people they hate "deserve" it, as was Majid's case.
There was that one guy, i forget his name now. He was always talking about jews and stuff.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
i aint racist, i hate everyone equally.
trufax rite hurr
Originally posted by 753
its not just in kmc either. white nationalist folk love to claim they aint racist and anti-racism means anti-white.
No one likes whites anyway.
This guy is a horrible racist/bigot/xenophobe: