I will focus on this one point specifically first so as to not have it overlooked by a spam attack of scans if i respond to every point at once.
Lets begin 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
There's no such thing as "pseudo multiverses" and never have been.
There's only Pocket-universes, Universes, Multiverses, Megaverses, and the Marvel Omniverse.Those scans are from the Hulk tie-ins to SSII and it has nothing to do with "Marvel"
corroborating your claim.That's just the Beyonder traveling the Multiverse.
The one and only Multiverse at the time.
It's Shooter telling us that instead of our reality just being a universe,
it's actually a Multiverse and "our" Universe is just one of an endless many.The Beyonder not only passed by the token primary mainstream "other verses" of the time,
like Asgard and Meph's domain, (more notably known as pocket-realms/universes)
but he also passed by UniverseS located [b]outside 616
like the "Microverse" (located in a separate Universe created by the MakerS)
and the Negative Zone which is where the "CrossRoads of Infinity" is,
a Nexus of Realities!Shooter had Beyonder cruise the major areas of the time of the one and only Multiverse.
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Not true at all.
The scan clearly states that our universe itself is a multiverse.
Do not twist unambiguous statements to coincide with your interpretation.
He states the thing he has noticed about our universe is that IT
IS MANY LAYERED AND ITSELF A MULTIVERSE
That statement is not open to interpretation.
It does not give room for an alternative interpretation.
He clearly states that hes noticed the universe itself is made up of many layers and states that it itself is a type of multiverse.
Nowhere in his statements does he say the universe is one of many in a multiverse. He clearly marks out the subject of his observations as the universe, then he talks about what hes observed about the universes nature, that it is many layered, he states that the universe IS a multiverse. NOT that it is a part of one. That was not the point he was trying to make.
That is the reason he then goes on to demonstrate his point by visiting on panel the many realms/pocket dimensions connected to our universe which make it a multiverse of sorts in his eyes:
To each universe in the Marvel multiverse there are versions of Asgard, Mephistos realm and a Dark Dimension. Therefore he was making the point that the universe wasnt "uni" as in singular, it was "many layered" composed of more than one dimension (multi) which is why he called it a multiverse.
Not a multiverse in terms of the Multiverse proper with divergent realities, but simply because it consisted of multiple dimensions in and of itself.
How would Beyonder be making a point that the universe is one of many universes in a multiverse - by not actually stating a sentence that meant that?
How would Beyonder be making a point that the universe is one of many universes in a multiverse - by visiting pocket realms connected to the universe instead of doing the obvious thing and travelling alternate realities like Days Of Future Past? 😖hifty:
As for your "point" about the Microverse, in its original conception, the Microverse or Microverses were subatomic pocket dimensions that existed within the atoms of the universe which is what Beyonder is visualizing for us:
Here you can see in the 1st two issues of Micronauts from 1979 the comic stating and depicting the Microverse realms as simply being sub atomic realms within the atoms of the universe:
It wasnt until later that it was retconned to state that the Microverse wasnt within the universes atoms and wasnt sub atomic, but the nexuses to access it were sub atomic which necessitated shrinking.
The many separate Microverses were later in 2000 changed to be one single Microverse:
The important point however is that at the time of the Beyonder scan, the Microverses were small pocket dimensions found within the universes atoms. Realms within a realm, which is why he visited them in demonstrating his observation, that the universe is a multiverse in its own right, because it is composed of multiple dimensions.
Class dismissed
Originally posted by zopzop
But in Abraxas' defense, I give you the petrified Franklin Richards. This little bastard is basically God and he was crapping his pants at the thought of Abraxas and his arrival.Also in Abraxas defense, CK was a sh|tty character and CW was garbage "writing" 😛
To be fair, despite all of Franklins power hes had it suppressed by Reed most of his life and hes not a trained warrior. Hes a kid with great power, but still a kid, so him being frightened doesnt undermine his power or suggest anything about Abraxas' in comparison
I refuse to believe a mere aspect of Oblivion (the same Oblivion that couldn't even beat Infinity while she was in his realm despite the fact that he had LOADS of help) is more powerful than Abraxas.
God, aka Reed Richards, was forced to use the UN to reset the multiverse to undo the damage Abraxas caused.
Originally posted by zopzop
I refuse to believe a mere aspect of Oblivion (the same Oblivion that couldn't even beat Infinity while she was in his realm despite the fact that he had LOADS of help) is more powerful than Abraxas.God, aka Reed Richards, was forced to use the UN to reset the multiverse to undo the damage Abraxas caused.
What cosmic foes did Abraxas actually face on panel for us to see?
What feats of energy manipulation vastly superior lets say a cube being did you see him perform?
The multiversal reset was required because Abraxas went from universe to universe one at a time causing trouble. Thats all bro
Originally posted by leonidas
loli've said a lot of the same thing gs. there is at least too many inconsistencies to ascribe one theory of everything.
Yeah i remember seeing that thread.
You werent messing about. Heads rolled 😆
I think its clear our interpretation covers everything and accounts for all inconsistencies.
Mr Masters would call for us to overlook inconsistencies which should tell him it isnt right. But he has his version of the hierarchy to maintain and its built on a couple of key flawed interpretations like this one 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStormMr Masters
would call for us to overlook inconsistencies which should tell him it isnt right.
But he has his version of the hierarchy to maintain and its built on a
couple of key flawed interpretations like this one
😆 I can't wait to dismantle your nonsense, also your mis-interpretations and/or lies.
Tomorrow homie.
This one .. I will enjoy.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Oh boy, I just love when you fondle yourself without merit.😆 I can't wait to dismantle your nonsense, also your mis-interpretations and/or lies.
Tomorrow homie.
This one .. I will enjoy.
Looking forward to the scan spammage coupled with your predictable commentary painting a completely different picture to whats actually stated in the scan. GREEEEEAT! 😱 😐
Now let me cut you off here quick-time.
Whats required here is for you to demonstrate how in this particular set of scans the Beyonder is NOT saying that the universe is a sort of mini multiverse in its own right.
Then we'll take it from there 😉
Originally posted by zopzopI refuse to believe a mere aspect of Oblivion (the same Oblivion
that couldn't even beat Infinity while she was in his realm despite the
fact that he had LOADS of help) is more powerful than Abraxas.God, aka Reed Richards, was forced to use the UN to reset the
multiverse to undo the damage Abraxas caused.
