Rogue Vs Superboy Prime

Originally posted by Bentley
Prime uses that heat vision which cuts through Superman like butter, Rogue would have only Runner's and Surfer's durability to tank that, so Prime can beat her using Heat Vision alone. She having "mastered" Hulk's power still doesn't make her an uber genius like Banner, and I just don't see her getting overly mad and juggling all those abilities at the same time.

He can shoot holes in her all he wants...Rogue has Hulk healing factor and the power cosmic to close those gaps.

Originally posted by carver9
He can shoot holes in her all he wants...Rogue has Hulk healing factor and the power cosmic to close those gaps.

In your opinion it isn't.

Id say it is as well, and heck she also has Visions intangility, meaning she can phase as well. Also, Runner has massive durability too, adding the toughness of Hulk, Vision, Surfer and Runner, combined, with Shaws kinetic absorption, and this Rogue is noticeably more durable than most anything SBP has fought. Adding in the speed of Surfer and Runner, combined, and SBP is in for the fight of his life. Ive seen SBP get hurt and even KOed by characters Much weaker than Rogue here

HV all you want.

Darwin's abilities will develop a counter for it. At the speeds of the Runner.

Rogue beats down emoboy prime, then evolves into a webwide moderator so she can block Prime from whining about it anywhere on the net.

I wanna say that it depends a lot Sesbastian Shaw's powers, but the Runner and Surfer combined would be incredibly strong.

Plus, Darwin's pull any powers you require out of your ass ability, coupled with incredible speeds etc...

Rogue wins, pretty convincingly.

Funny thing is Prime could handle this team no problem, but all of their abilities stacking each other in one single char is too much.

Rogue can't even absorb the SS.

Apparently, according to this thread, she can.

It the complementary stacking that gets SBP.

Shaws powers overload so thats moot. How strong are Dawins powers? WHen he fought the hulk he couldnt handle him (WWH).

I dont think the healing factor would help since he can just destroy every part of her with his vision.

The question is how durable is she with the power cosmic? The kid can punch dimensions and screw up time. I dont see rouge winning here sorry people.

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
Shaws powers overload so thats moot. How strong are Dawins powers? WHen he fought the hulk he couldnt handle him (WWH).

I dont think the healing factor would help since he can just destroy every part of her with his vision.

The question is how durable is she with the power cosmic? The kid can punch dimensions and screw up time. I dont see rouge winning here sorry people.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

These abilities arent separate, she can use them simultaneously and use some abilities to bolster others, so her Visions density abilities to bolster the durability of her Hulk form for example whilst being able to absorb kinetic energy to bolster her strength and durability further with her Sebastian Shaw power-set

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shaw CAN be overloaded, this is true.

But what happened if you gave Rogue the Hulk's ability to amp his durability? On top of the Surfer's energy absorption abilities, plus the Runner's/Surfer's reflexes so Rogue could continually discharge excess energy, or even worse, get more powerful?

Having the Hulk and Surfer's stacked abilities removes Shaw's cap.

In short, whatever cap Shaw may have had as a human, is removed by having Surfer's durability (who was able to channel the Crunch) and the Hulk's amping. So:

Rogue uses Shaw's ability to absorb energy, with the baseline level of Surfer. Then amps Surfer's durability/absorption by using Hulk's amping ability.

Then, using Shaw's ability to punch back with an equal amount of force, stacked on top of the Surfer's ability to amp with the PC, and the Hulk's strength, with whatever Darwin's ability comes up with (like when he absorbed Hela's powers), all at the speed of the Runner....yeah.

SBP ain't winning this.

I still say she goes down, and not because I like the kid. Ive seen him take way to many super heros. When it comes to writers making someone to strong this guy is ALMOST worse then Thanos.

Also, in answer to your question, after WWH, Darwin was able to use a Death God's powers (Hela).

Remember how quickly WWH could heal, so that Wolverine's slashes weren't even registering? Imagine that HF sped up by having the Runner's attributes.

No matter how strong SBP will be, Rogue will be stronger here (thanks to Shaw's powerset, and the removal of his cap). No matter how fast he is, the Runner/Surfer will be there to enable her to keep up. HV attacks? She can use Vision's density control, or Darwin's mutation to enable her to develop something on the fly.

Would she be able to do all this stuff? Sure. Cosmic awareness, plus she's bloodlusted.

He really has no advantage over her.

shaw has also been shown to be able to absorb AND form of energy recently (including magical and electrical). add hulk's healing and runner (who is a friggin ELDER of the universe) and i don't see hv being a problem for rogue. at all. still not seeing how prime can win this battle in any way.

Sounds infinity fallacish for me to be honest. Regular Superman has the ability to burn hotter than the Sun, factor that to a HV on a level that puts Kal to shame and I don't see why to assume Darwin or Vision's abilities would be a factor at all. Vision doesn't become untouchable, he just alter his own Destiny, actually he doesn't add anything in particular, as Surfer can replicate that power himself.

It would be awesome if Rogue tried to absorb Prime just to be busted and break down like the Black Lantern Ring did by Prime's randomness.

Then Galactica said that she gets full knowledge on how to use these abilities...she's a master. Her amping with Hulk strength (master of it), the power Cosmic (master of it), Shaw ability (master of it), along with the other powers that probably isn't even needed here...she stomps.

Didn't she cope with Legion before? - the rings couldn't cope with SBP's mix of emotions, I think Rogue could do it just fine.

Then you add things like the Surfer being able to cope with entire worlds, and so Rogue's cap is also removed.

Shaw was constrained by his human body. Pre upgrade, Surfer was able to absorb and use the Crunch. Absorbing and using the energy from HV, then add the Hulk's ability to continually amp...

Now, as his physical form has been limiting the SS...imagine, if only he had the ability to gain the perfect example of comic physicality, i.e the Hulk.

So when did shaw, Darwin, Hela, and other guys become so strong as to move planets, not be hurt by antimatter, take on ION, and beat the crap out of super girl, superman, black lanterns, power girl, etc etc etc.