yeah and the only way you can interact is by trying to debate that emperor palpatine, freddy krueger and voldermort don't touch little boys.
dumbledore wins because he is more powerful but restrained in his offencive tactics as he doesn't want to outright kill voldermould. if he was blood lusted there would be a two minute duel lock then Voldy Van Vinkle winky would be killed
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was defending Harry and destroyed them. Why wouldn't he want to destroy Voldemort ? We saw him try to kill him twice.So you admit they helped. Gotcha.
He was dueling with him and by doing so was he protecting Harry. Later on he was unable to stop the possession so he failed in that regard.
What have I ignored ? The floor is yours.
It wasn't a duel in your flawed example. They couldn't really do anything to Dumbledore
I never said them being there didn't help. They didn't "support" him as per your claim
You already conceded this point. Move on
You ignored the defense of Harry
Originally posted by Genesis-SoldierBased off feats and their fight voldemort is more powerful.
yeah and the only way you can interact is by trying to debate that emperor palpatine, freddy krueger and voldermort don't touch little boys.dumbledore wins because he is more powerful but restrained in his offencive tactics as he doesn't want to outright kill voldermould. if he was blood lusted there would be a two minute duel lock then Voldy Van Vinkle winky would be killed
Speculation isn't debating. Go by the facts not your imagination
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Originally posted by juggermanSo what changes if he is trying to protect Harry ? You're saying in duels he doesn't try to kill ? Why can't you make any sense.
It wasn't a duel in your flawed example. They couldn't really do anything to DumbledoreI never said them being there didn't help. They didn't "support" him as per your claim
You already conceded this point. Move on
You ignored the defense of Harry
They did morally support him in expelling voldemort. To deny this is not understanding the scene.
No, I did not.
He pushed him back because voldemort was going to come out of the water bubble. Voldemort then rocked dumbledore onto his backside. He looked more powerful, dictated the fight, and then later possessed Harry with dumbledore magically unable to aid him.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
So what changes if he is trying to protect Harry ? You're saying in duels he doesn't try to kill ? Why can't you make any sense.They did morally support him in expelling voldemort. To deny this is not understanding the scene.
No, I did not.
He pushed him back because voldemort was going to come out of the water bubble. Voldemort then rocked dumbledore onto his backside. He looked more powerful, dictated the fight, and then later possessed Harry with dumbledore magically unable to aid him.
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You act as if you need to kill to win a duel. You don't. The series shows several duels won without killing or trying to kill.
Nope. They showed up and he remembered. Done.
Your concession has been accepted. Move on kid
So his attention had to be at least partially on Harry to be aware of his location to push him. IOW his mind was not fully on the duel.
Originally posted by juggermanHe tried to drown him and kill him with the fire sent back at him. We see him try to kill him.
You act as if you need to kill to win a duel. You don't. The series shows several duels won without killing or trying to kill.Nope. They showed up and he remembered. Done.
Your concession has been accepted. Move on kid
So his attention had to be at least partially on Harry to be aware of his location to push him. IOW his mind was not fully on the duel.
He remembered by their support and by dumbledore's words. The scene clearrly showed that.
My concession with regards to what ? Spit it out.
Yes, his mind was completely on the duel, their surroundings, whether it be Harry or the water he used to try to drown Voldemort. When dueling you don't just focus on the opposing wizard you're mindful of your surroundings.
I'm a ****ing amazing debater.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That is your misinterpretation of his body language but that isn't a fact. You also admitted later on dumbledore was scared. You already conceded.I argue based off what voldemort has done, his aggression, and his magical abilities. I don't make feats up or screencaps. That's your forte.
Dumbledore died. By your rationale Arya Stark went on to survive whereas the hound was crushed in combat by a woman therefore Arya is greater. 😂
You avoid the context at all costs and even cited another character because you're that childish.
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Voldemort wins.
Incorrect, it's what shown in the film. Watch the fight.
"Irony", you argue off "I like Voldermort, so he wins." LoL, you're so incredibly awful at analogies.
"Irony"
This, you cannot counter and it stings you:
Originally posted by quanchi112
He tried to drown him and kill him with the fire sent back at him. We see him try to kill him.He remembered by their support and by dumbledore's words. The scene clearrly showed that.
My concession with regards to what ? Spit it out.
Yes, his mind was completely on the duel, their surroundings, whether it be Harry or the water he used to try to drown Voldemort. When dueling you don't just focus on the opposing wizard you're mindful of your surroundings.
I'm a ****ing amazing debater.
We see him protecting Harry. You bringing up the Inferi doesn't work since it's a completely different situation
They arrived and he saw them. No support needed. Just his memories of why Voldemort is to be pitied not feared.
What you conceded to. Try to keep up for once
You know this from experience do ya? You're talking out of your ass now. You have no clue if they are aware of the surroundings. What we do see is Albus being particularly concerned with Harry's safety. Split attention means he didn't fight his best
You suck at debating bro.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Robbie I wish you antics weren't jester like so I could find this at least a little offensive. You're harmless and this is all you bring to any debate. Biased and jester like tactics ignoring the evidence.
"Irony"
Anytime you have an actual counter instead of ranting nonsense, it would be nice:
Originally posted by juggermanWe see him protecting Harry in both situations. The inferi do not have the powers Voldemort wields. We see him try to kill voldemort and we see him destroy inferi. They can't defend themselves like Voldemort.
We see him protecting Harry. You bringing up the Inferi doesn't work since it's a completely different situationThey arrived and he saw them. No support needed. Just his memories of why Voldemort is to be pitied not feared.
What you conceded to. Try to keep up for once
You know this from experience do ya? You're talking out of your ass now. You have no clue if they are aware of the surroundings. What we do see is Albus being particularly concerned with Harry's safety. Split attention means he didn't fight his best
You suck at debating bro.
Dumbledore counseled him and his friends supported which in turn gave him the foresight to see the differences in the two and expel him.
You can't name anything because you're being rather childish.
I saw the special features in which the director makes a point that these two wizards use their surroundings in the duel. That was the point they went for and of course you didn't realize this because you're rather foolish.
Want me to look it up and see if I can find it on YouTube and will you concede these wizards used their surroundings against the other one ?
If you won't concede with the people involved explaining the scene and their duel then you're just a fanboy.
Unlike you I grasp what I watch.
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