Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Read your upper statement. Is similar to: Melkor has never been seen defeating Sauron with power ring, therefore Sauron is stronger. That's how your logic sounds.2. Quanchi, go research man! I can't do the research for you! I have done my own research. Grindelwald is above Voldermort just like Albus is! Go and research and then come back and answer.
3. We are here to debate not educate people! Before replying to a thread you should investigate both sides and draw your conclusions.
I have given you my reasons why Voldemort loses.
1. I have and I have responded. Sauron was his sera the so there's no need to battle since he follows Morgoth.
2. I have explained why you're wrong. Your response is do research. That isn't a rebuttal.
3. I have done so but this is the films and I've seen them all and seem well reasoned and cite evidence myself to articulate my points.
Voldemort wins.