Cyberpunk 2077

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah but because CDPR kept the game "binary" in that V and others only refer to V as male/female or him/her and didn't add yet another entire voice track for all the other gender fluid and trans and blah blah associations people give themselves, they're "not inclusive" enough and aren't really "pushing boundaries for lgbtq community". People will find any reason to moan. They'll focus on dumb stuff like that and not the actual story or game play.

I hope I get to play it on the 9th.

It doesn't bother me and I think if that's really people's stickler with the game they have kind of unrealistic expectations for a game that explicitly lets you play as a trans person. That's already something I can't think of a single other game doing.

With that said, I'm reasonably sure that quite a bit of the criticisms are an attempt to deliberately harm sales of the game because of CDPR's abuse of their employees.

Originally posted by NemeBro
None of that would be an issue if they didn't make a big fuss out of offering the ability to play a non-binary character. It doesn't bother me at all, but they should have either been more honest about the amount of representation people are getting, or had a third voice track where people refer to you as "they/them/etc/" as opposed to the more binary dialogue, for the players that actually care.

It doesn't bother me and I think if that's really people's stickler with the game they have kind of unrealistic expectations for a game that explicitly lets you play as a trans person. That's already something I can't think of a single other game doing.

With that said, I'm reasonably sure that quite a bit of the criticisms are an attempt to deliberately harm sales of the game because of CDPR's abuse of their employees.

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Huh? 😁

I’ll play this game some months down the line. Hearing it’s hideously buggy right now though.

I believe the day 1 patch is 50 something GB and should clear up the bugs.

PC Gamer said they were playing with the day 1 patch and it was still very buggy.

I’m just gonna wait. A game of this scope is going to be buggy anyways. In a few months most of them should be ironed out.

Plus I want to wait and see how console performance is. I may wait until I get a PS5 to play it if the game doesn’t perform well on the PS4

Supposedly they weren't giving out console codes for reviews.

I'm waiting...no point in playing it when a better version will be coming (aka next gen upgrade) and the game is supposedly brutal with bugs.

And.....well I have a feeling I will enjoy the hell out of it...some of the reviews are not making me giddy on playing it anytime soon.

Also, the seizure is ****ing brutal...if that was true...and I cannot understand why a company would do this...its disgusting.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Also, the seizure is ****ing brutal...if that was true...and I cannot understand why a company would do this...its disgusting.

Reportedly this happens when you do "braindances" so if anyone here still buys the game regardless, if you come across things like scenes of your character putting on goggles/helmets/whatever headsets, look away immediately.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Supposedly they weren't giving out console codes for reviews.

I'm waiting...no point in playing it when a better version will be coming (aka next gen upgrade) and the game is supposedly brutal with bugs.

And.....well I have a feeling I will enjoy the hell out of it...some of the reviews are not making me giddy on playing it anytime soon.

Also, the seizure is ****ing brutal...if that was true...and I cannot understand why a company would do this...its disgusting.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/ps5-xbox-series-x-graphics-visuals-developer/

Hard to really improve on photorealism.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Reportedly this happens when you do "braindances" so if anyone here still buys the game regardless, if you come across things like scenes of your character putting on goggles/helmets/whatever headsets, look away immediately.

Supposedly people are like "they have warnings"...but the warning is in the EULA agreement....

Far from Ubisoft having a warning at the start of the game or Microsoft having a ton of disability options.

In reality, if they unintentionally designed a game with graphics that are almost exact replica to how doctors induce seizures...they should really have an option to disable that specific portion.

Like really, what do you loose as a gamer if you do not see this part of the game....

Originally posted by Smasandian
Supposedly they weren't giving out console codes for reviews.

I'm waiting...no point in playing it when a better version will be coming (aka next gen upgrade) and the game is supposedly brutal with bugs.

And.....well I have a feeling I will enjoy the hell out of it...some of the reviews are not making me giddy on playing it anytime soon.

Also, the seizure is ****ing brutal...if that was true...and I cannot understand why a company would do this...its disgusting.

No need for a general warning. Not like it can cause seizure unless you're susceptible, in which case you'd probably be aware of your condition long before this game.

Sure, is irresponsible not to warn the epileptic.

That's a ridiculous take....most media have warnings when there is something that could cause seizures in people.

Having a gameplay section that is very similiar to how doctors induce them and saying "tough luck" is bullshit. There is no legitimate reason for a crazy rich developers to have this and should be fixed as soon as possible.

But **** people right! Need mah games.

Originally posted by Smasandian
That's a ridiculous take....most media have warnings when there is something that could cause seizures in people.

Having a gameplay section that is very similiar to how doctors induce them and saying "tough luck" is bullshit. There is no legitimate reason for a crazy rich developers to have this and should be fixed as soon as possible.

But **** people right! Need mah games.

I agree.

But you were saying to look away, like just anyone can get a seizure. I wouldn't look away, because I've never had one in my life, and won't suddenly get it now. That isn't how seizure's work, they're a condition a few unfortunates are born with, not something someone gets later in life.

Tbh they put a pretty clear warning in the user agreement you have to sign prior to playing the game. Yeah yeah, no one reads that. Still, anyone who has this as a medical problem should be pretty carefully screening their games. Scanning or control+Fing the agreement seems like a pretty obvious step if you have a an epileptic condition.

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah but because CDPR kept the game "binary" in that V and others only refer to V as male/female or him/her and didn't add yet another entire voice track for all the other gender fluid and trans and blah blah associations people give themselves, they're "not inclusive" enough and aren't really "pushing boundaries for lgbtq community". People will find any reason to moan. They'll focus on dumb stuff like that and not the actual story or game play.

I hope I get to play it on the 9th.

I find that unacceptable in this case...it's not clear at all considering this was brought up by a reviewer who happened to have a seizure while playing the game.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I find that unacceptable in this case...it's not clear at all considering this was brought up by a reviewer who happened to have a seizure while playing the game.

Haha....whatever. There is even discussion that EULA are not even useful as a legal document.

But of course, you read them right? Just in case?

I find it ridiculous for a company to wash their hands just because they buried in a bullshit document that might even be enforceable and blame it on the user.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Haha....whatever. There is even discussion that EULA are not even useful as a legal document.

But of course, you read them right? Just in case?

I find it ridiculous for a company to wash their hands just because they buried in a bullshit document that might even be enforceable and blame it on the user.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
No, but like I said: If I suffered from epilepsy, I'd probably at least control+F the document for a standard warning before playing. Games straight up force you go to the bottom of it these days. Hell, it's not even buried. It's the third section down, and I barely have to scroll to hit it. A health condition IS something the user should be more self-aware of. Does every snack/dish that includes peanuts or peanut oil include an allergen warning on the front in giant red letters? Or do they just list it on the back and assume an allergic individual has the know-how/capacity to read through the nutritional label?

Nutritional label is a bad comparison. I have played games for years and I never thought about looking at the EULA agreement for health warnings because most companies, if not all..put them in the game itself.

Meh. CDPR was certainly lax by not putting up a more prominent warning, but if you are at risk of epileptic seizures you probably shouldn't be playing video games or at the very least be more wary. Anyway, this kinda stuff happens frequently. Accidents happen. Calling it disgusting seems a bit much.