JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

Started by -Pr-24 pages

You need help.

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. it was the new 52 jla, not pre-reboot, which this thread is about iirc.
2. It was cast by a magical trident, and this was after all three members were weakened from combat.

Especially considering how since the reboot, people like Superman have tanked worse than lightning.

How was he or any of the other JLA weakened? Getting punched once by Aquaman and being stunned isn't being weakened... Furthermore, if one punch from Aquaman will stun him.. what would a punch from Thanos do? KO him?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How was he or any of the other JLA weakened? Getting punched once by Aquaman and being stunned isn't being weakened... Furthermore, if one punch from Aquaman will stun him.. what would a punch from Thanos do? KO him?

So if Superman was completely fresh, you think a couple of stray lightning bolts would put him down?

That's lowballing.

Well... he was pretty much fresh.. and he was put down by them... So yes, unless you want to consider this PIS. Problem is, he has many low showings that can't all be thrown at as PIS. Point is, even if I concede he wouldn't be put down by some random lighting most of the time.. Thanos blasts are exponentially more powerful than some random lighting. So if random lighting can at least hurt him.. and Aquaman can stun him... Thanos will be able to put him down even easier no?

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Well... he was pretty much fresh.. and he was put down by them... So yes, unless you want to consider this PIS. Problem is, he has many low showings that can't all be thrown at as PIS. Point is, even if I concede he wouldn't be put down by some random lighting most of the time.. Thanos blasts are exponentially more powerful than some random lighting. So if random lighting can at least hurt him.. and Aquaman can stun him... Thanos will be able to put him down even easier no?

Except that it wasn't random lightning. It was magical lightning. And he doesn't have "many" low showings at all. Not since he's reached his current age and power level.

And again, while sure, Thanos would be able to put Superman down, there are two problems: One, you're debating the wrong Superman, and two, Superman is pretty strong himself.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
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This.

Has Superman's magic weakness been brought up in new dc?

Also the lightning itself came from the sky...

Question...

Has it been confirmed on panel yet that the staff generates magical abilities. From what I've seen, it was controlling the weather...havent seen anything on panel confirming its source of power (magic). Is there a link or something?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has Superman's magic weakness been brought up in new dc?

Also the lightning itself came from the sky...

Yeah, it has.

Originally posted by carver9
Question...

Has it been confirmed on panel yet that the staff generates magical abilities. From what I've seen, it was controlling the weather...havent seen anything on panel confirming its source of power (magic). Is there a link or something?

It fires energy blasts also. You'd know that if you'd read the issue. And Atlantean artifacts are by nature magical. The dead king's sceptre, Aquaman's trident; all of them are magical in nature.

It's Atlantis, ffs.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has Superman's magic weakness been brought up in new dc?

Also the lightning itself came from the sky...

That's what I'm thinking. He had weather control.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, it has.

It fires energy blasts also. You'd know that if you'd read the issue. And Atlantean artifacts are by nature magical. The dead king's sceptre, Aquaman's trident; all of them are magical in nature.

It's Atlantis, ffs.

Ok, I was just asking. His helmet also played a role in what he was doing as well. We just need to see more from the character to determine what he is capable of imo. It's too vague.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has Superman's magic weakness been brought up in new dc?

Also the lightning itself came from the sky...


Yeah, it was addressed in the start of DCnU in JLD 1.

Orm is a sorcerer, him conjuring lightning out of the sky would be considered a magical lightning. Not that it matters

Originally posted by armedforbattle
Martian Manhunter
Superman
Wonder Woman
Hal Jordan

Vs

Thanos

No prep or BFR
In character
Fight in open Desert
DC are pre 52

Originally posted by carver9
Question...

Has it been confirmed on panel yet that the staff generates magical abilities. From what I've seen, it was controlling the weather...havent seen anything on panel confirming its source of power (magic). Is there a link or something?


He is a sorcerer carv, that confirms he was using a tazer instead of conjuring lightning from his staff, right?

Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I was just asking. His helmet also played a role in what he was doing as well. We just need to see more from the character to determine what he is capable of imo. It's too vague.

The helmet controls the seas, not the skies. Seriously, did you even read the comic, or just look at some scans?

Originally posted by -Pr-
The helmet controls the seas, not the skies. Seriously, did you even read the comic, or just look at some scans?

Lol...I read the comic. I didn't give a description of what his helmet controlled, I was just throwing that out there that his helmet can manipulate things as well.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I read the comic. I didn't give a description of what his helmet controlled, I was just throwing that out there that his helmet can manipulate things as well.

Yes, the seas. Like it said in the comics. Trident controls storms, crown controls seas.

Now I'm repeating myself.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it was addressed in the start of DCnU in JLD 1.

Orm is a sorcerer, him conjuring lightning out of the sky would be considered a magical lightning. Not that it matters

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Why though? I could see if it came out of his doohickey, but it came directly from the sky. Reasonable explanation please.

Don't care about thread

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Why though? I could see if it came out of his doohickey, but it came directly from the sky. Reasonable explanation please.

Don't care about thread

How is it any different from when Thor summons lightning far more powerful than normal lightning?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
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Why though? I could see if it came out of his doohickey, but it came directly from the sky. Reasonable explanation please.

Don't care about thread


Just like how Thor's lightning is magical even if he conjures it from sky./shrug

Sure you don't.

Thor's weather effects are tied to his magic, that's why he can summin stuff in space, on other planets ( even on ego who commands his atmosphere), and on earth where that phenomena doesn't often occure, like in a desert.

Storm can only use what's available through psionic means

There is a difference but the same effect can happen with seperate sources