JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

Started by Branlor Swift24 pages

Originally posted by -Pr-
How is it any different from when Thor summons lightning far more powerful than normal lightning?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Just like how Thor's lightning is magical even if he conjures it from sky./shrug

Sure you don't.

Has Thor's cloud sky lightning ever been said to be magical in its like 50 years of use? The only time his lightning seems potent is when it's one shotting him out of his hammer.

Or when it's coming out of space to hit CK

Ok... I do care about the thread then? Lets get back on topic so we can speak of something I'm not asking about... ?
You got me?

Even if we say it's normal lightning, then it becomes an outlying low feat that can't be used to determine an average on the forum. Why? Because Superman at the very least has taken worse and still been conscious.

Hell, even Aquaman before the reboot, when he was portrayed less strong and durable, was able to tank lightning.

People are free to take their pick, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if we say it's normal lightning, then it becomes an outlying low feat that can't be used to determine an average on the forum. Why? Because Superman at the very least has taken worse and still been conscious.

Hell, even Aquaman before the reboot, when he was portrayed less strong and durable, was able to tank lightning.

People are free to take their pick, tbh.

Doesn't matter to me. I just wanted to see proof of magic lightning

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Doesn't matter to me. I just wanted to see proof of magic lightning

It wasn't outright stated as being magical, no.

More logical inferrance.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has Thor's cloud sky lightning ever been said to be magical in its like 50 years of use? The only time his lightning seems potent is when it's one shotting him out of his hammer.

Or when it's coming out of space to hit CK

Ok... I do care about the thread then? Lets get back on topic so we can speak of something I'm not asking about... ?
You got me?


Yeah, Iron man has tested his lightning and has said its magical.

Really? That's why the only KO thor has on hulk was with a summoned lightning bolt from sky?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor6fight13.jpg

Yeah, I was just joking around. You got me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It wasn't outright stated as being magical, no.

More logical inferrance.

Works both ways though.

Some people may come to the conclusion that it's a magical fork and therefore anything it did, or summoned would be fairy dust. Some people may come to the conclusion that it's from the sky, and he just summoned it.

Who's wrong?

That wasn't rhetorical, Cyclops is wrong. The wrong person died in AVX

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Iron man has tested his lightning and has said its magical.

Really? That's why the only KO thor has on hulk was with a summoned lightning bolt from sky?

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor6fight13.jpg

Yeah, I was just joking around. You got me.

The Iron Man scan would do er.

But the Hulk one didn't do much. Hulk sucks.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Works both ways though.

Some people may come to the conclusion that it's a magical fork and therefore anything it did, or summoned would be fairy dust. Some people may come to the conclusion that it's from the sky, and he just summoned it.

Who's wrong?

That wasn't rhetorical, Cyclops is wrong. The wrong person died in AVX

The Iron Man scan would do er.

But the Hulk one didn't do much. Hulk sucks.

😂

Cyclops was wrong, yes.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Has Thor's cloud sky lightning ever been said to be magical in its like 50 years of use? The only time his lightning seems potent is when it's one shotting him out of his hammer.

Kind of funny, but in the scene you talk about, Cho outright calls Thor's lightning bolt as divine, and something far beyond mortal technology or whatever.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Kind of funny, but in the scene you talk about, Cho outright calls Thor's lightning bolt as divine, and something far beyond mortal technology or whatever.
I realize. I'm not talking about his whacker lightning. Obviously that fires hocus pocus stuff

I'm talking about cloud bolts. Although I'd like to see this scan where he hits Metal Guy and Marvel Steel says it's mystical

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I realize. I'm not talking about his whacker lightning. Obviously that fires hocus pocus stuff

I'm talking about cloud bolts. Although I'd like to see this scan where he hits Metal Guy and Marvel Steel says it's mystical

http://s388.beta.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir244-TransmutationIronmanThor4.jpg.html
http://s388.beta.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir245-Transmutation.jpg.html

That's only the most recent I could find. There's more that describes bolts he summons from the sky as mystic etc. They'd be a pain to find but there should be a few (Don't remember if they're all "cloud bolts"😉. Tbh, you don't actually need any scans for this, Thor's cloud lightning has matter manipulated, teleported, IIRC resurrected Loki, hit much harder than normal lightning on various occasions and so on.

That was a good feat for both. Iron Man is able to channel divine energy, and Thor's lightning was too much for Iron Man's systems (The second time it plain shorted him out and he reverted to Stark) without even being intended to harm him, simply transform Diablo.

I have no idea why Thor didn't just focus and intensify his power through Mjolnir, a far superior tool, but Stark had to be there for something I guess.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have no idea why Thor didn't just focus and intensify his power through Mjolnir, a far superior tool, but Stark had to be there for something I guess.
It looks like did though, and than Iron Lad farther intensified it which doesn't make sense.

He was hitting him with lightning both from cloud lightning and hammer lightning

Not really just cloud lightning, but sure why not. I was thinking of something where nothing visible came from his hammer, and came out of the sky, much like Evil Waterguy.

If you're talking about the second try, while he was pointing Mjolnir at Tony, like in the first one, a bolt from the sky directly struck Iron Man. It was never channeled through Mjolnir. The main reason I posted that scan.

The rest of my points stand.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you're talking about the second try, while he was pointing Mjolnir at Tony, like in the first one, a bolt from the sky directly struck Iron Man. It was never channeled through Mjolnir. The main reason I posted that scan.

The rest of my points stand.

Why would he try it again, but different? Not only different, but in the exact same pose, same touching, but apparently without it coming out of his hammer this time? Also, the art wasn't focused directly on him touching Iron Man's back sensually like the first try.

See that's the thing, you tell me I don't need scans for your other points. But I do. That's the whole thing, I don't recall a scene off the top of my head where it was said to be mystical in nature and be channelled much the same way as WaterlightningMan.

How do your points stand when I asked for proof of it? I mean, if those scenes you mentioned are anything like the one you showed... surely I can't trust your word. It's shit.

"The rest of my points stand"... ha, the ego on this one, amirite fellers?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Why would he try it again, but different? Not only different, but in the exact same pose, same touching, but apparently without it coming out of his hammer this time? Also, the art wasn't focused directly on him touching Iron Man's back sensually like the first try.

See that's the thing, you tell me I don't need scans for your other points. But I do. That's the whole thing, I don't recall a scene off the top of my head where it was said to be mystical in nature and be channelled much the same way as WaterlightningMan.

How do your points stand when I asked for proof of it? I mean, if those scenes you mentioned are anything like the one you showed... surely I can't trust your word. It's shit.

"The rest of my points stand"... ha, the ego on this one, amirite fellers?


Go ask the other Thor experts... ODG, Jakethebank, Damborgson...
😘

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Go ask the other Thor experts... ODG, Jakethebank, Damborgson...
😘
Yeah, I'm looking for the old Iron Man/Thor scene now that Thor Expert number 3 Abi (ODG, and Dambo are 1 and 2) brought it up.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Why would he try it again, but different? Not only different, but in the exact same pose, same touching, but apparently without it coming out of his hammer this time? Also, the art wasn't focused directly on him touching Iron Man's back sensually like the first try.

See that's the thing, you tell me I don't need scans for your other points. But I do. That's the whole thing, I don't recall a scene off the top of my head where it was said to be mystical in nature and be channelled much the same way as WaterlightningMan.

How do your points stand when I asked for proof of it? I mean, if those scenes you mentioned are anything like the one you showed... surely I can't trust your word. It's shit.

"The rest of my points stand"... ha, the ego on this one, amirite fellers?

Well, I think we're seeing what each of us wants too or something.

The lighting isn't coming out of his hammer here either:
http://s388.beta.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir244-TransmutationIronmanThor4.jpg.html

He summons it down from the sky, and is pointed at Iron Man, but no actual lighting is being channeled through Mjolnir, it's all down straight at Tony.

Fine, I'll find something. Although, all you have to do is go through Thor's miscellaneous section to find all the wacky shit he's done with cloud bolts to make it clear they are magical in nature such as this:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ShattersHydroBase3.jpg

But whatever, to each his own.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, I think we're seeing what each of us wants too or something.

The lighting isn't coming out of his hammer here either:
http://s388.beta.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir244-TransmutationIronmanThor4.jpg.html

He summons it down from the sky, and is pointed at Iron Man, but no actual lighting is being channeled through Mjolnir, it's all down straight at Tony.

Fine, I'll find something. Although, all you have to do is go through Thor's miscellaneous section to find all the wacky shit he's done with cloud bolts to make it clear they are magical in nature such as this:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ShattersHydroBase3.jpg

But whatever, to each his own.

Well that didn't work.
I thought trying to get you mad would get proof, but you're just usel... you know what, nevermind.

Maybe Dambo, or Abi has something.

Also you're kidding with that scan right? Look in the panel directly up from the big bright distracting lightning bolt that's blue and apparently caught your attention too much. Look at the lightning energy surrounding Iron Man before the distracting lightning bolt comes in.

EDIT: That's better, was that so hard?

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesWallofLight.jpg

Here, cloud bolts directly stated to be mystical. I hate you for making me spend 3 minutes to look for this shit.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Well that didn't work.
I thought trying to get you mad would get proof, but you're just usel... you know what, nevermind.

Maybe Dambo, or Abi has something.

Also you're kidding with that scan right? Look in the panel directly up from the big bright distracting lightning bolt that's blue and apparently caught your attention too much. Look at the lightning energy surrounding Iron Man before the distracting lightning bolt comes in.

EDIT: That's better, was that so hard?

Lightning that can revive! Looks magical to me.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/CreatesWallofLight.jpg

Here, cloud bolts directly stated to be mystical. I hate you for making me spend 3 minutes to look for this shit.

"Mystically orchestrated"

Ha. No shit.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Lightning that can revive! Looks magical to me.
Finally a true Thor fan brings some actual proof. Thank you true Thor fan.