JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

Started by psycho gundam24 pages

i don't see why not

odin had two fights iirc where things were metaphysical, and they were with galactus and seth. both characters representing some kind of concept with some importance in the grand scheme. even lowly ass ares represents war for eternity meaning time shenanigans don't seem to work on him.

thanos was confirmed by odin to not have divine power sources, and we already knew his race were god-like but not "true" gods like asgardians are. odin fought him head to head.

i might be wrong but it's at least coming from a logical standpoint, not butthurt

As I can remember Thanos was pretty messed up when someone opened a black hole on him. What was that really bad miniseries called? The one where he had to take on his own clones. One of them was a thanos/galactus clones?

THen in Annihilation Surfer opened a Black hole. Thanos or someone said, lets get out of here we dont wanan get caught in that event horizen.

Surfer is written like a retard. So was the Odin vs Thanos fight. As was the Thanos vs Tyrant fight. Its all CIS, PIS, in favor of a beloved character, but it gets to be retarded. When some people start saying oh nobody can be him.

it collapsed in on itself with him in it and all it did was get him naked and mess up his skin

what's the big deal?

Not to mention it was 2 light years in radius. Meaning it was super duper massive. Whats with people treating black hole as if size doesn't matter?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it collapsed in on itself with him in it and all it did was get him naked and mess up his skin

what's the big deal?

That was the day Quan became his loyal groupie.

Thanos was incredibly impressive against Odin (As well as Tyrant), no one can take that away from him. On the other hand, it's probably his best showing so I'm confused as to why people act like it's the bar for him.

Going through my respect thread and found this:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill11.jpg

Even mentally/spiritually, Odin was on a completely different level than Thanos under Starlin. It took Thanos, Strange, Moondragon with the Mind Gem, Surfer, Adam and all the others pooling their resources/wills to just barely break out of Thor's mind with their sanity while it was pointed out that Odin could easily rip out that part of Thor, although the process would kill him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You can't disagree since it's true.

Originally posted by ThereIsHope
LOL yeah thats true. But on the boards, everyone use acts like a black hole wouldnt hurt Thanos. But now everyone is realizing that if Surfer acted smart, he would probably kill Thanos

The age of Quan is coming to an end.

Basically you want to ignore the comics and how these characters fight proving you're biased.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You don't like the word defeated?

How about beat down?

Humiliated?

Trounced?

Drubbed?

Creamed? (yes homo)

Thanos was weakened and three super teams didn't even defeat him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos was incredibly impressive against Odin (As well as Tyrant), no one can take that away from him. On the other hand, it's probably his best showing so I'm confused as to why people act like it's the bar for him.

That's simply how he's portrayed virtually all the time. Thanos is above heralds, but not quite skyfather or wutever tier Tyrant is considered. No one here is disputing that fact. He never did beat Odin or Tyrant, but he came out looking good nonetheless. Look at how Odin treated herald level powerhouses like Surfer or Drax. He one-shot ko'ed Drax on a whim and was no-selling Surfer until he finaly swatted him away(looked like a one-shot) and was never seen again till the end of the book.

Tyrant on the other hand was punkin heralds left and right that include the likes of Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Jack of Hearts, Morg, Terrax, etc. etc...

Look at how Lord Mar-Vell treated two heralds at the same time. Surfer and Nova Prime were completely and utterly outclassed. The same Lord Mar-Vell one-shot killed a seemingly trans level character (Magus) a couple issues back in the same arc. When came time for Thanos to meet Lord Mar-Vell, the latter's shiet was getting pushed in just for kicks. That's Thanos plain and simple.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Going through my respect thread and found this:
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill10.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorInsaneWill11.jpg

Even mentally/spiritually, Odin was on a completely different level than Thanos under Starlin. It took Thanos, Strange, Moondragon with the Mind Gem, Surfer, Adam and all the others pooling their resources/wills to just barely break out of Thor's mind with their sanity while it was pointed out that Odin could easily rip out that part of Thor, although the process would kill him.


Well he is his direct heir. Let's not forget he was the cause of Thor's malady to begin with. Odin better be the answer to his madness.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's simply how he's portrayed virtually all the time. Thanos is above heralds, but not quite skyfather or wutever tier Tyrant is considered. No one here is disputing that fact. He never did beat Odin or Tyrant, but he came out looking good nonetheless. Look at how Odin treated herald level powerhouses like Surfer or Drax. He one-shot ko'ed Drax on whim and was no-selling Surfer until he finaly swatted him away(looked like a one-shot) and was never seen again till the end of the book.

Thanos has been above Herald level for some time but against Odin and Blood and Thunder Thor, he was arguably at his all time high. Treating those showings in a vacuum, he wouldn't beat Surfer to death in an enraged and prolonged beating, he'd do it easily in a handful of hits.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Well he is his direct heir. Let's not forget he was the cause of Thor's malady to begin with. Odin better be the answer to his madness.

Yes Odin was the cause indirectly (He's the one who split Thor's power between other mortals such as Bill and Norvell), but the only way he could get rid of the madness is by forcefully ripping it out of Thor's head (Resulting in death) while Thanos and co. could barely escape Thor's mind unscathed.

Not to mention Warlock's narration made it very apparent that Odin was on a completely different level.

To say Thanos was at his all time high against Odin is laughable. The fight ended in a standstill. Accept it already.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos has been above Herald level for some time but against Odin and Blood and Thunder Thor, he was arguably at his all time high. Treating those showings in a vacuum, he wouldn't beat Surfer to death in an enraged and prolonged beating, he'd do it easily in a handful of hits.

His showing in the examples I've brought up are not so far away from each other. That's the point. Even when abstracts like Galactus are involved, he is portrayed consistently.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes Odin was the cause indirectly (He's the one who split Thor's power between other mortals such as Bill and Norvell), but the only way he could get rid of the madness is by forcefully ripping it out of Thor's head (Resulting in death) while Thanos and co. could barely escape Thor's mind unscathed.
Not to mention Warlock's narration made it very apparent that Odin was on a completely different level.

Again, I'm not disputing Odin's superiority over Thanos.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
His showing in the examples I've brought up are not so far away from each other. That's the point. Even when abstracts like Galactus are involved, he is portrayed consistently.

]Again, I'm not disputing Odin's superiority over Thanos.

Fair enough.

When exactly did Diana and J'onn become part of the top heralds on this forum?

When most of their trollish supporters left the forums 😛

(Martian Mind anyone?)

^lol
Thas messed up man.. Marian Mind was coo...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos has been above Herald level for some time but against Odin and Blood and Thunder Thor, he was arguably at his all time high. Treating those showings in a vacuum, he wouldn't beat Surfer to death in an enraged and prolonged beating, he'd do it easily in a handful of hits.
He killed Surfer in 8 punches...

Which is no worse than actual Skyfather losing to Thor. Or Zeus taking some effort to KO polio Thor in much the same way.

Treat it in a vacuum and there's no way things like the Bendis whatever the **** should happen, not things where he takes effort to easily kill Surfer with his bare hands... especially when that same Surfer shrugged off his blast when we've seen Thanos as a ghost pretty much one shot him.
Actually treat 90 percent of Thanos' feats in a vacuum, and Bendis Thanos doesn't exist. If it makes Cockeye, Hulk and whoever else look good, it's fair game.
I know you're not talking about Bendis, but I know you feel my plight.

I mean, in addition to what's been said, Thanos has matched the IB which is really a ridiculous feat, taken 3 shots from the IG and been none the worse for wear, One shotted quite a few herald level dudes (including a low level Thanos clone one shotting Hulk), mollywhopping Maker (when he was ready, mind you), took a Cosmic Cube blast without being KO'ed, etc.

He's pretty dang consistent. The Odin and PG Thor feats, while impressive, aren't so far above his others, if above some at all. And most certainly not low feats like many have said. He'll never be Odin level on his own, but I don't think it's too wrong to see him in the low Skyfather range. He just lacks the "I'm going to damage everything everywhere at the same time" collateral feats.

Put him against Pluto, and Shiva or the like, and yeah...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He killed Surfer in 8 punches...

Which is no worse than actual Skyfather losing to Thor. Or Zeus taking some effort to KO polio Thor in much the same way.

Treat it in a vacuum and there's no way things like the Bendis whatever the **** should happen, not things where he takes effort to easily kill Surfer with his bare hands... especially when that same Surfer shrugged off his blast when we've seen Thanos as a ghost pretty much one shot him.
Actually treat 90 percent of Thanos' feats in a vacuum, and Bendis Thanos doesn't exist. If it makes Cockeye, Hulk and whoever else look good, it's fair game.
I know you're not talking about Bendis, but I know you feel my plight.

I mean, in addition to what's been said, Thanos has matched the IB which is really a ridiculous feat, taken 3 shots from the IG and been none the worse for wear, One shotted quite a few herald level dudes (including a low level Thanos clone one shotting Hulk), mollywhopping Maker (when he was ready, mind you), took a Cosmic Cube blast without being KO'ed, etc.

He's pretty dang consistent. The Odin and PG Thor feats, while impressive, aren't so far above his others, if above some at all. And most certainly not low feats like many have said. He'll never be Odin level on his own, but I don't think it's too wrong to see him in the low Skyfather range. He just lacks the "I'm going to damage everything everywhere at the same time" collateral feats.

Put him against Pluto, and Shiva or the like, and yeah...

Yeah I get it, you want Mad Titan semen in your butt.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yeah I get it, you want Mad Titan semen in your butt.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12832306/AA_6_TheGroup_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12832307/AA_6_TheGroup_013.jpg.html

throw quan in to start things off and you have a human centipede. 😐

anywho, i have no problem admitting thanos is more powerful than this group and should win a melee. my issue is what it has always been with him--it's difficult to determine how he could react to an outright full-on blitz from people with speed like diana and supes. if they were to bind him (no lasso-oriented pis) in the lasso, i do NOT see him breaking it, so, it seems to me he would be incapacitated long enough to constitute a forum win. maybe not every time, but..... shrug

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12832306/AA_6_TheGroup_012.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12832307/AA_6_TheGroup_013.jpg.html

😂

it's like you just had that around waiting....