I really dont know where you get these silly sayings about how Preacherverse god equals galactus, doesnt equal galactus. There is nothing to imply that he doenst or does.
Galactus has had pretty weak showings yet we know he's stronger then most everyone in the MU. Death has weak showings yet even Galactus must die. Death has to employ others to do her dirty work such as Thanos, and Annihlus.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn'
Yes. 😄The Preacherverse God has at least the power of Odin's headbutt. Ergo, the SOK took out a being with the power of Odin.
Saint of Killers wins!
P.S. ZopZop, choose an equivalent Marvel deity to Preacherverse God.
P.P.S. SHOW YOURSELF!
As to what character in Marvel is most like Preacherverse God? Well off his Throne any low level mystic entity will do. On his Throne, who knows? Assuming he created most of what we saw on panel in the Preacher comic, probably a low level skyfather.
Originally posted by zopzop
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PS This thread is over.
PPS Jynocidus made some damn good pointsAs to what character in Marvel is most like Preacherverse God? Well off his Throne any low level mystic entity will do. On his Throne, who knows? Assuming he created most of what we saw on panel in the Preacher comic, probably a low level skyfather.
Which low level mystic entity?
Better yet, answer this.
Which low level mystic in the marvel universe is capable of creating a universe without an amp?
The angel of death in the bible can be interpreted as death himself. Thus SOK is death. I saw no amazing points. I also have never seen Thanos make no universe under his own power.
I see this thread as nothing more then a hyjacking of a good thread by the typical fanboys, and a recruting of new ones. You can say that i insult you and all this nonsense, but whatever. Im not the one who says silly crap like comparing Thanos to a vampire, a god, and other bullcrap. When you then get down and dirty and run out of arguments. You turn to other attacks saying that im a troll and such.
Well SOK never fought a herald, thus he is below Thanos, Preacherverse god never did nothing that wow'd us thus he is below thanos. SOK could not kill one guy, namely a vampire in the entire series, which was later explained to be a fluke. This has been the entire argument for the people who are backing Thanos.
Yet Hela is a death god, and some death god who fought Odin wow'd us and they are amazing. Yet SOK who is death for his universe isnt in the same class. How this above logic works is beyond me.
Originally posted by Bentleyhttp://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanoskillsgamora.jpg
Yeah, that part was arguable actually, Bone Claws had good feats, I was just pissing on them because I always diss Wolverine a little. Piercing tank beats arrows though.In a version of Thanos that would win this fight easily, as stated by me at least three times during this discussion.
The bullets would pierce through Thanos and kill him, the question is if they would bounce off his shields.
Does that work, since "a strong blade" swung by Gamora has way more piercing damage than arrows. Against the weakest Thanos.
So what changed? Was Thanos downgraded, or even said to lose his power?
In fact, the end of Imperative seemed to go against this. You know, when she abandoned Thanos again and wouldn't let him by her side, IE, the same as he was the entire series. He wasn't getting fed a constant supply of energy, he just came back in a stronger body with the ability to perma kill. Death leaving him to live straight up says he still retains his powers.
Here, Death rejects Thanos at the end of Imperative:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2emlwjp.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/r8eaea.jpg
And what does this mean?
http://i49.tinypic.com/33xk29h.jpg
Yeah, it means he stays immortal
They wouldn't kill him. Even if they smash through him, he's got a little thing called a healing factor, a little thing called immortality.
Hell, humans were capable of functioning for multiple pages after getting hit by them. And the only person who was shot by them with a healing factor/immortality (of some kind) survived, and he was a human level being with just those going for him.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page03of24_zps93d3b473.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page04of24_zps0c742398.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue02-page05of24_zpsaf29ec86.jpg
It's not an insta kill even on humans. Thanos would most certainly heal from that... and without having limbs blown off for that matter... if he was shot and it went into him.
If we assume he's auto death for any character ever because of SOK's pussy Earth, then (going back to your Wolverine hate) why don't we accept that adamantium is unbreakable when it's been constantly stated to be in a universe with Galactuses, Odins, etc?
Why should we scale up Sok's power just because it was said to be this and that on a pathetic planet? I mean, we shouldn't forget that Sok's bullets were said to never miss on a planet with 1980's tech, and his wounds were always said to be fatal when their intended target was humans. Obviously he should be able to kill them.
Certainly his bullets would miss a Flash, certainly a solid block of adamantium would stop his bullets, yet following the absolute on his guns, what I just said was false. Does this make sense to you? A character who never hit a speeding foe like the Flash, or shot through anything near adamantium level can suddenly do it because he was said to on a weaker planet. He was never said to miss, certainly he'd blast through a solid chunk of adamantium, right?
Not saying that Thanos' shields are adamantium level (though going by feats it's a wash), but it's the same concept. The only proof we have of Sok being able to get through Thanos' shields are statements saying they never miss (although never missing doesn't exactly mean it can't be blocked...), and shooting through tanks. So obviously his shields are irrelevant. Shields that Galactus had trouble getting through are shattered because someone shot through tanks and his bullets were said to never miss... lol how is this logic?
C'mon
But anyway on to other things I read...
Universal death, lol what? Nevermind the fact that we never once saw him gathering souls from beings from around the universe, but right ****ing here it says he would sleep beneath the Earth and his shadow would walk its surface, and he would gather souls whenever men would die by violent means.
http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/sok63.jpg
THE EARTH. He wasn't a God damned universal death. Hell, he had less dominion than any Death God we see in Marvel (nevermind the fact that some have incredible feats).
Also lol at assuming he would automatically be put on Death's level even if. She destroyed a universe and laid Shuma Gorath the fudge out. He took a nuke and killed a weakened God...
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God created the universe...
Where did this exactly come from?
All God was ever said to create was the planet:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page19of30_zpsf1c68ff8.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page20of30_zps1d3d27cf.jpg
He was not stated to create anything else. He was not all powerful, he was not all knowing. He was just a powerful being with a whole lot of ego who happened to be called God. His whole attitude goes against any sort of God we know as well.
Plus, if he did create the entire universe, why would he choose to place his heaven where he would "rule" for all eternity in the clouds on Earth?
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page10of40_zps952fde2a.jpg
Because that would most certainly be the best place to observe all of his creation... Earth.
Or it helps him keep a close eye on the planet Cylonmcdicktits
Like I said before, Korvac could have done God's job, and he did this in the middle of battle, imagine what he could have did with time (ignore the casual planet destroying blast because that might be a little above Preacher God):
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/AvengersAnnual16-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/AvengersAnnual16-20.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/AvengersAnnual16-21.jpg
I'll ask for Bentley to supply the scans of Korvac making a paradise please. 🙂
Yeah, not abstract level.
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The comparison with Ion and other such beings is stupid.
Ion was said to remake the universe. Ion was using the same source of power Parallax was, and P actually has feats to back that up. Those characters we have a way to measure. The only way we have a means of measuring Preacher God is by comparing and contrasting his creation of Earth, and it doesn't put him above Skyfather, I'll tell you that much.
And another thing, these characters also have hype behind them. I know it's largely meaningless, but Preacher God didn't even get that going for him. Preacher God has no statements, no feats or anything of the like for him to be impressive other than his "God" moniker.
Ion would have wiped everything on that planet out with a snap.
The amount of lies here are tremendous... but clearly Zopzop and Quan are shitting up the thread. 😐
That's all I wanted to answer... hope we ignore on panel scans though, and keep up with the lies... should really stop clicking thereishope's posts though...
A few observations:
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIn the Bible he created more than just the Earth. That's where it comes from. And attributing Biblical feats to him considering the source material isn't exactly a leap in logic; it is common-sensical. And his attitude is meaningless. Look at what a cunt Nemesis (or the Infinity Being, whatever) was. Certainly not the righteous omnipotence we'd expect but there's no rule saying God can't be a d1ck. I mean, Franklin Richards is two steps from retard and he makes fuctioning universes in between snack time and nap time.
God created the universe...
Where did this exactly come from?All God was ever said to create was the planet:
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page19of30_zpsf1c68ff8.jpg
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue66-page20of30_zps1d3d27cf.jpgHe was not stated to create anything else. He was not all powerful, he was not all knowing. He was just a powerful being with a whole lot of ego who happened to be called God. His whole attitude goes against any sort of God we know as well.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWhy exactly is the fact that these two angels were flying in the stratosphere when Genesis attacked them necessarily mean that Heaven was located in the stratosphere to you? Like in your imagination, are high altitude planes and air pollution bugging the crap out of them?
Plus, if he did create the entire universe, why would he choose to place his heaven where he would "rule" for all eternity in the clouds on Earth?
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m610/sonnendawg/SOK/Preacher-Issue01-page10of40_zps952fde2a.jpgBecause that would most certainly be the best place to observe all of his creation... Earth.
Is there some other fact that leads you to believe that they all of Heaven is also in the clouds... floating invisibly or something... rather than be located on a higher plane?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Which low level mystic entity?Better yet, answer this.
Which low level mystic in the marvel universe is capable of creating a universe without an amp?
There actually was an example of such creature altering reality and such but I forgot when/what issue it took place in though.
That's why Preacherverse "God" don't impress me much.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The amount of lies here are tremendous... but clearly Zopzop and Quan are shitting up the thread. 😐
Originally posted by leonidas
you bastiches are gonna force me to download and read that whole series, aren't you? 😂
That was the plan we and Zop conceived from the begining 😈
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/thanoskillsgamora.jpgDoes that work, since "a strong blade" swung by Gamora has way more piercing damage than arrows. Against the weakest Thanos.
So what changed? Was Thanos downgraded, or even said to lose his power?
Thanos was pierced by the blade, I'm not arguing that the arrows could've killed Thanos given the opportunity, while Gamora probably would've been able to pull it off. Simply the fact that Thanos has shown some low scale damage on piercing resistance, as proved again by the scan you posted. He was pierced even if the weapon was exceptional, the boneclaws managed it too etc.
This is consistant through Thanos's history, I'm just applying it here.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yeah, it means he stays immortal
If Thanos's current incarnation is indeed inmortal, as he was during the Imperative, of course the results would be the same. I haven't seen its latest appearance, so I'll gladly conceed if they've changed the character as they very explicitly did in TI. I have been discussing about classic Thanos who doesn't have any particular defenses against Death.
In the Imperative it was made very clear by Gamera and Drax that Thanos came back different: indestructible, only after blasting it with the Cosmic Cube he goes weaker and starts to build up his power again as time passes. So from then up to the end of the arc, I consider it pretty much capable of disposing of the SoK as he was displayed in what to me where exceptional circomstances.
Again, if Thanos isn't on his classic mortal version this fight is spite.
Zop brought up a good point. When SOK kills someone where do they go? Who claims the soul? Aren't the entities he kills supposed to go to the afterlife? But satan and the preacherverse god were already in the afterlife? So where did they go? Did the concept of death (like marvel's death) claim them?
Originally posted by zopzop
ANY low level mystic entity. Creatures like Dyspare and such.There actually was an example of such creature altering reality and such but I forgot when/what issue it took place in though.
That's why Preacherverse "God" don't impress me much.
You forgot the other question,
Which low level mystic entity CREATED a universe?
Altering reality isn't the same as creating a universe. I conceded that the Preacherverse God is below TOAA but that doesn't mean he is on par with Thanos, much less below.
Show us the mystic entity that can create a universe in the 616.
