Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why must their be a cut off point? Odin like all characters has his highs and lows.
A cut off point may provide a better gauge for debate. While all characters have highs and lows, the highs for classic Odin are very high. Post Simonson or Simonson onward has enough time to establish a decent amount of canon.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
A cut off point may provide a better gauge for debate. While all characters have highs and lows, the highs for classic Odin are very high. Post Simonson or Simonson onward has enough time to establish a decent amount of canon.
FYI, Odin and co. have had uber feats similar to the classic incarnations during Simonson's run and far after.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynHis battle with Seth that caused tremors through the multiverse? Defeating an extra-dimensional pantheon that survived the heat death of their own universe? Reversing time on Marvel Earth? Taking on Galactus? Creating an entire planet from empty space by merely walking? Manipulating and forcibly funneling universe-busting energies into another dimension?
I obviously know about Simonson's era that is why I offered a post Simonson period.What has been so uber comparitively after that?
These are some of the best (if not the greatest) feats of Odin's career. What could possibly have led you to believe that he was clearly depowered since Simonson?????????
Originally posted by pym-ftw
So six pages and no one has brought up Odin just freezing time,...As far as Nabu goes Odin can also shunt things out of Asgard.
Odin Amped by the all his gear, Asgard, and a Channeling Loki solos
He is way to versatile.
Not beings more powerful than him though, can he? The Celestials for example were able to mess with Asgard over Odin's power. He's not omnipotent, even in his own realm.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What's wrong with my reasoning?
So explain to me how Zatanna at one point breaking the fourth wall will allow her to beat Odin in this fight? How does it have any real relevance?
Forget it, I know desperation and idiocy when I see it. Loki summons his old punching bag Deadpool and he shows Zatanna what it really means to break the fourth wall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So explain to me how Zatanna at one point breaking the fourth wall will allow her to beat Odin in this fight? How does it have any real relevance?Forget it, I know desperation and idiocy when I see it. Loki summons his old punching bag Deadpool and he shows Zatanna what it really means to break the fourth wall.
Cool, so its at best a stalemate ;-) and Asgard under their own power are unable to deal with these ten DC characters.
Concession accepted,
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool, so its at best a stalemate ;-) and Asgard under their own power are unable to deal with these ten DC characters.Concession accepted,
Nope. Deadpool rips the comic pages that the DC Characters inhabit in half.
However, it's cute that you have to resort to this gimmicky idiocy because you have been bested at the actual debate. Next time, if you can't prove your points or realized you were being ignorant, just concede instead of wasting time.
Gimmicky idiocy?
It's on panel. Unlike your mythical Odin with Norn stones, Gungnir, Casket, Destroyer etc....I've never seen what he can do with all these stacked, but you obviously have, so you're better to debate what he can or cannot do. Of course, you have proof of all these amps stacked, right?
It's canon (I think), so it's not like I'm doing anything different from what a 'normal' non idiotic comic book debates....
What proof would you like? I can prove Z doing hat I say. can you prove your tactic of Odin summoningDeadpool, nd him doing what you say?
Try doing that before attacking people personally. You seem very sensitive, they are only fictional characters, after all!
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Does Asgard get all their artifacts right at their finger tips when the battle starts? Is Odin going to see ten characters and immediately jump into the destroyer armour with all of Asgard, bust out the twilight sword, etc?
Odin can summon the artifacts but the premise that he is just going to wipe out the DC team before they ravage most of Asgard is beyond a stretch.
Pretty sure Pre-Crisis Fate isn't being counted. So has Odin on more than one occasion.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gimmicky idiocy?It's on panel. Unlike your mythical Odin with Norn stones, Gungnir, Casket, Destroyer etc....I've never seen what he can do with all these stacked, but you obviously have, so you're better to debate what he can or cannot do. Of course, you have proof of all these amps stacked, right?
It's canon (I think), so it's not like I'm doing anything different from what a 'normal' non idiotic comic book debates....
What proof would you like? I can prove Z doing hat I say. can you prove your tactic of Odin summoningDeadpool, nd him doing what you say?
Try doing that before attacking people personally. You seem very sensitive, they are only fictional characters, after all!
What else am I suppose to call it?
We were discussing the fight, it started going unfavorably, and now you're saying Zatanna will somehow win the fight using fourth wall shit because once she placed her palm on the edge of the comic book page:
I don't even know what you think that proves, or how you think it means she wins.
Wait, you want me to prove that Odin adding more weapons unto his person wold make him more powerful? I'm not saying they're multiplicative but they do make him more powerful. If you think otherwise, the onus is on you to prove it.
Okay, go ahead and support Zatanna winning. If it's the scan above that you posted, unfortunately that doesn't mean shit. Loki summoning Deadpool and letting him loose on the comic book pages? It is unlikely but that ship sailed when you started with this line of thinking. Although I can prove that Loki knows Deadpool, can teleport people, and that Deadpool has ripped a comic page in half before.
I'm not sensitive, but today I have a low tolerance for trolls who don't know they are trolls.