Deathstroke or Captain America????

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Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to claim that 2004 BC is that fast, then post feats for 2004 BC.
2003 Cap>>>2013 Cap

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Doesn't work like that, Black Canary is Black Canary

By that logic Red Zone, where Cap outran the bullet that Red Skull shot was in 2003

Prove that 2013 Cap is as good as 2003 Cap

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Jesus Christ.

Because that's the same thing as retroactively attributing current feats with past incarnations of a character, a character who recieved a major overhaul and skill upgrade over the years since that specific example. facepalm

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
2003 Cap>>>2013 Cap

Do you even understand how time works?

I'm almost certain we are being trolled right now...

Originally posted by Silent Master
Do you even understand how time works?
Do you even understand how stupid your logic is?

First you asked me to prove that Dinah was using her speed against Slade, what a ridiculous argument, who the hell turns off their speed in a freaking fight? Why the hell wouldn't she try to use her speed against him?

Now you're asking me to prove that 2004 Dinah was as good as 2009 Dinah, it's YOUR Job to prove that 2009 Dinah had significant upgrades that would suggest 2004 Dinah couldn't replicate those feats.

Do you understand what a floating time line is? It's the same reason why the Simpsons haven't aged in 25 years and why Bruce Wayne has remained in his middle ages for decades now. Characters don't improve over time unless narration states otherwise, that is where YOUR job comes in, to prove through narration that Dinah had improved.

If you can't then you're just wasting my time now.

Do you even understand how time works?

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Do you even understand how stupid your logic is?

First you asked me to prove that Dinah was using her speed against Slade, what a ridiculous argument, who the hell turns off their speed in a freaking fight? Why the hell wouldn't she try to use her speed against him?

Now you're asking me to prove that 2004 Dinah was as good as 2009 Dinah, it's YOUR Job to prove that 2009 Dinah had significant upgrades that would suggest 2004 Dinah couldn't replicate those feats.

Do you understand what a floating time line is? It's the same reason why the Simpsons haven't aged in 25 years and why Bruce Wayne has remained in his middle ages for decades now. Characters don't improve over time unless narration states otherwise, that is where YOUR job comes in, to prove through narration that Dinah had improved.

If you can't then you're just wasting my time now.

Birds of Prey... Read it.

Ahh repeating yourself, the true mark of concession. Can't say I blame you, when you started to deny evidence in front of your face I could tell this wasn't going anywhere

Somewhere between that and Srank's trolling attempts to get even an ounce of attention, still oblivious to the fact that he's been on ignore for over 2 weeks now.

Originally posted by ODG
1) Why wouldn't the canary cry be fast enough? 2) Why do you assume that is an mp40 (looks like an old fashioned tommy gun complete with drum magazine)?

I see Black Canary screaming at the bullets, I don't see her chasing after bullets or running past them at all.

I'm repeating myself in the hopes that you will actually pay attention to the question and relaize how stupid your argument is.

Someone want to tell this schmoe about Gail Simmones Birds of Prey run.

1. The CC wouldn't be fast enough because sound waves move slower than bullets.

2. You realize that some models of the Thomson, including those running around NYC at that time potentially have faster bullet velocities than the MP40.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm repeating myself in the hopes that you will actually pay attention to the question and relaize how stupid your argument is.

Sorry, I don't know what relaize is, is that some kind of a fruit? Sounds yummy

And the irony is staggering, someone telling me my argument is stupid when he argued that Canary turned her speed off in a fight

Seriously dude It was fun slapping you around for a bit but now it's getting to the point where you'll make up anything you can think of to try to discredit the fact that I'm right and you're wrong.

Next time bring a better argument or I'm taking this as your concession

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
1. The CC wouldn't be fast enough because sound waves move slower than bullets.

2. You realize that some models of the Thomson, including those running around NYC at that time potentially have faster bullet velocities than the MP40.

Canary cry isn't exactly an ordinary soundwave. It's a metahuman power. Do you have evidence it travels only at the speed of sound?

I realize that some tommygun models have bullet velocities slower than sound. You, however, apparently never realized that it was a tommygun and not an mp40.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Sorry, I don't know what relaize is, is that some kind of a fruit? Sounds yummy

And the irony is staggering, someone telling me my argument is stupid when he argued that Canary turned her speed off in a fight

Seriously dude It was fun slapping you around for a bit but now it's getting to the point where you'll make up anything you can think of to try to discredit the fact that I'm right and you're wrong.

Next time bring a better argument or I'm taking this as your concession

Are you really so stupid as to believe that feats from 2009 can be applied to a scene from 2004?

Originally posted by ODG
Canary cry isn't exactly an ordinary soundwave. It's a metahuman power. Do you have evidence it travels only at the speed of sound?

I realize that some tommygun models have bullet velocities slower than sound.

A sound wave is a sound wave, do you have proof that it's faster than a standard soundwave? This is your obligation to prove this.

The slowest tommygun had a bullet velocity of 920 FPS, BUT

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/m1-thompson-tommygun.jpg

This is the M1, the barrel in the gun in the scan is too short for it to be the M1 sub machine gun so we can rule that one out.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you really so stupid as to believe that feats from 2009 can be applied to a scene from 2004?
Are you really that stupid as to believe that Black Canary turned off her speed in that fight? Yes...you are

Unless you can prove 2009 Dinah was better than 2004 Dinah you don't have a case. Better luck next time.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Are you really that stupid as to believe that Black Canary turned off her speed in that fight? Yes...you are

Unless you can prove 2009 Dinah was better than 2004 Dinah you don't have a case. Better luck next time.

If you want to claim that BC was that fast in 2004, you have to provide feats from no later than 2004, that is the way debates work.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
A sound wave is a sound wave, do you have proof that it's faster than a standard soundwave? This is your obligation to prove this.

The slowest tommygun had a bullet velocity of 920 FPS, BUT

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/imgs/m1-thompson-tommygun.jpg

This is the M1, the barrel in the gun in the scan is too short for it to be the M1 sub machine gun so we can rule that one out.

Actually, since it's your entire theory at stake here, it's on you to prove that her canary cry only travels at sound speed. Because if it isn't limited to that speed, your entire theory is shot.

M1 doesn't accept drum magazines.

Originally posted by ODG
Actually, since it's your entire theory at stake here, it's on you to prove that her canary cry only travels at sound speed. Because if it isn't limited to that speed, your entire theory is shot.

M1 doesn't accept drum magazines.

Actually my theory is based on the fact that Dinah's powerset STATES that her canary cry consist of sound waves

Why should I assume that her sound waves are faster when all of her DC bios state they are sound waves? If they say that they're sound waves then that's what they are, if you say that they go faster then its your job to prove it

Good, I'm glad you agree so we can rule out the M1 which is the slowest Thompson Machine Gun. Thanks for that