Deathstroke or Captain America????

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Daredevil1, I am not going to put you on ignore because I truly believe that you weren't trying to be malicious in any way shape or form. I think that maybe we can have better debates in the future

Just for the record I am not saying that Cap is stupid or unintelligent by any means

For now lets agree to disagree because you seem like you can be somewhat reasonable and I really feel that we got off on the wrong foot.

Truce?

Truce is good. Even though many times I disagree with others. No point on putting people on ignore. It would make it way to boring around here IMO.

Originally posted by ODG
What feat exactly are you even referring to here. Scan or issue #? Because what you're describing makes little sense.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/87159/1683812-black_canary_out_races_bullets_super.jpg

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
It's unfortunate I can't block quotations either but I'll educate him

2 Things

First Dinah was trying to protect someone, Dinah would NOT direct her Canary Cry in the path of the person she was trying to protect

Second, the Canary cry consist of SOUND WAVES.

The speed of Sound is 770 miles per hour, which turns out to be 1129 feet per second in dry air

The bullet velocity of the MP40 that was used in that instance is 1250 feet per second

Which means the bullets traveled 121 feet per second faster than the Canary Cry

Which means that if Dinah used her CC in pursuit of the bullets they would not have been able to catch up, which means she had to have been in front of them to intercept them

So yes, she did indeed outrace those bullets

Dinah uses her cry in the path of people all the ****ing time... case in point... the very issue we are discussion. She simply has incredible control... if she didn't the shooter would have been hit by the cry, he wasn't, only the bullets.

Crimson is shooting over her shoulder. Random villain shots at Drake. Canary is in the path of the bullet. Her scream destroys said bullets. I have no idea what you are talking about when you see her "out pacing bullets."...

Then again you though Batman dodged that lightening bolt so there is something wrong with you.

Originally posted by ODG
What feat exactly are you even referring to here. Scan or issue #? Because what you're describing makes little sense.

JLA 80 PAGE GIANT, 2009.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Show me Dinah using her speed when Slade "blitzes" her. and Batman didn't dodge a lightning bolt in that scan

Dinah, who can outrace bullets, was looking straight at Slade about the use the CC. Before she can react Slade flips over her, gags her and bags her face.

I think this is the first time I've someone deny a feat that was thrown in his face. Mazin attacked them, they dodged, unless your so desperate that you're suggesting Batman makes funny poses for the sake of it, but at this point considering how ridiculous your arguments are I wouldn't be surprised

Thank you for posting a scan that clearly shows her not using her speed during the attack.

BTW, didn't that scene happen before the comic where she suppoesdly out-paced bullets?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
JLA 80 PAGE GIANT, 2009.

Wait, didn't Identity Crisis happen in 2004?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thank you for posting a scan that clearly shows her not using her speed during the attack.

BTW, didn't that scene happen before the comic where she suppoesdly out-paced bullets?

I don't see how it could happen before when they were on the same page. The bullets are clearly away from her and the scream wouldn't be able to catch them up to them.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/8/87159/1683812-black_canary_out_races_bullets_super.jpg

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wait, didn't Identity Crisis happen in 2004?

Originally posted by ODG
I see Black Canary using her canary cry to destroy bullets.

Dinah intercepted the bullets, she ran from behind to the front of the trajectory, intercepted then destroyed them with the CC

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
It did, not that it matters because unless you can prove Dinah got a major upgrade between them then the time lapse is irrelevant.

Not that is matters? You're trying to apply a 2009 "speed feat" to a scene from a 2004 comic.

Originally posted by ODG
I see Black Canary using her canary cry to destroy bullets.

I think reacting with a cry before the bullet hits her, is supposed to be the feat.

Of course, this presumes she wasn't already in mid cry before the shooting started, in which case he'd just be blind firing into her attack..

Originally posted by cdtm
I think reacting with a cry before the bullet hits her, is supposed to be the feat.

Of course, this presumes she wasn't already in mid cry before the shooting started, in which case he'd just be blind firing into her attack..

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not that is matters? You're trying to apply a 2009 "speed feat" to a scene from a 2004 comic.

But yeah, prove she got a speed upgrade and I'll drop it right now and never mention it again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wait, didn't Identity Crisis happen in 2004?

Yes. Now that you've mentioned that I'm not even sure given the time line of Indention Crisis Black Canary had her Gail Simmone skill bump. Those BoP issues started coming out a couple months before IC did, and an event like that would have been scripted well in advance, and wouldn't have had time to adopted Canary's new martial prowess.

Not to mention the next time they met post Simmone skill amp, Slade got his good eye punctured by Canary, and sent running by Huntress, Canary, Creote, Lady Blackhawk and a half dead Savant. That's a team of world beaters right there if I ever saw it. She also avoided all his attacks and kicked him the junk when he attacked her wedding. Which would mean there was a major amp since those events took place.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Same character, unless you can prove Dinah had a major upgrade to her speed between Identity Crisis and the 80 Page Giant, Slade essentially blitzed a character who can outrace bullets but didn't perform the feat until a later date, unless she got some upgrades then the assumption is she was able to outrace bullets all along.

But yeah, prove she got a speed upgrade and I'll drop it right now and never mention it again.

If you want to claim that 2004 BC is that fast, then post feats for 2004 BC.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
What you are seeing are bullets heading away from Dinah. The Canary Cry would not be fast enough to chase the bullets and destroy them from behind due to the MP40's bullet velocity

Dinah intercepted the bullets, she ran from behind to the front of the trajectory, intercepted then destroyed them with the CC

I see Black Canary screaming at the bullets, I don't see her chasing after bullets or running past them at all.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you want to claim that 2004 BC is that fast, then post feats for 2004 BC.

By that logic Red Zone, where Cap outran the bullet that Red Skull shot was in 2003

Prove that 2013 Cap is as good as 2003 Cap

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Doesn't work like that, Black Canary is Black Canary

By that logic Red Zone, where Cap outran the bullet that Red Skull shot was in 2003

Prove that 2013 Cap is as good as 2003 Cap

If you want to claim that 2004 BC is that fast, then post feats for 2004 BC.