Deathstroke or Captain America????

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
No I'm pretty positive that I read it word for word and this is what you said

"With sonic waves from her mouth that was already agape when the bullets were fired, yes"

For someone who accuses others of lying you sure do it yourself quite a bit, It was clearly shown that she yelled NO! and didn't use the CC when they were fired.

I'm not going to explain it again though, have your parents help you since you seem to be having so much trouble grasping it

And as I've not insulted you, I see no cause for the bashing. Please stop otherwise I'll report you.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Daredevil did dodge all of Cap's attacks, roping someone up isn't an attack, by that logic if a Cop slaps a pair of hand cuffs on you that would be an attack and you can scream police brutality

So yeah everything I've stated regarding DD and Cap has been pretty spot on

You first stated that Cap has blitzed Daredevil, this never happened

Then you stated Cap has dominated him, this never happened

Actually, you blatantly lied when you said Cap never held an advantage in any of his fight with DD.

Actually, I said Cap's beaten the crap out of DD and that he's had the advantage. Both statements are true. I'll ask you not to lie about what I stated, otherwise you'll be reported for trolling.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
We've gotten this far because when you make another blunder in your post you quickly change the subject or modify it to the point of discussing something else entirely

I agree, attacking someone off guard is entirely meaningless, the problem here is that Canary wasn't off guard, in fact she was about to attack Slade before Slade heard the click in her jaw and blitzed her, attacked before she can react.

That is what blitzing is, I'm not sure what this Spiderman instance you keep bringing up is but if Spiderman attacked Cap and Cap dodged it, then counter attacked, that isn't a blitz, that's taking advantage of Spidermans vulnerable position he put himself into when he missed.

Spidey wasn't off-guard either when he assaulted Cap. Cap hit him before Spidey could react.

And so you would say Black Canary left herself in a vulnerable position by just standing there. I can agree with that. I guess this reasoning does debunk the notion that she was blitzed. Also, Cap was the one who missed Spidey right before Cap landed the second punch.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
So what we have is Cap taking at most 5/10 against Daredevil, never being able to beat him or hold any advantage against him.

And hitting Spiderman

Where we have Slade blitzing Black Canary, gagging her and tieing her up before she can scream

Who is a legitimate bullet-timer unlike Deathstroke who hasn't a single bullet-timing feat. 👆

Right, but like you said, Black Canary left herself open and vulnerable and Slade is more skilled than her. So you can't call that a blitz.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Again I thank you for making my job much easier 😉

Originally posted by ODG
Well since you keep making the wrong inferences from my statement, then you do need to reread it again.

And as I've not insulted you, I see no cause for the bashing. Please stop otherwise I'll report you. Roping someone's ankle is an attack as much as wrapping a bag around someone's head. That much I agree with.

Actually, you blatantly lied when you said Cap never held an advantage in any of his fight with DD.

Actually, I said Cap's beaten the crap out of DD and that he's had the advantage. Both statements are true. I'll ask you not to lie about what I stated, otherwise you'll be reported for trolling. I've been addressing pretty much all your posts, so I disagree with your jaundiced characterization.

Spidey wasn't off-guard either when he assaulted Cap. Cap hit him before Spidey could react.

And so you would say Black Canary left herself in a vulnerable position by just standing there. I can agree with that. I guess this reasoning does debunk the notion that she was blitzed. Also, Cap was the one who missed Spidey right before Cap landed the second punch. I'm going to ask you to not blatantly lie about this again. The next time you do, I'll post the scans and Ill report you for trolling. Cap's beaten up Daredevil and he's held advantages despite the both of them being mind-controlled at times. You've read the fights as you've described some specific details so you can't plead ignorance.

Who is a legitimate bullet-timer unlike Deathstroke who hasn't a single bullet-timing feat. 👆

Right, but like you said, Black Canary left herself open and vulnerable and Slade is more skilled than her. So you can't call that a blitz. You make it easy. Every single argument has been, at one point, or another your own. Simply catching someone off-guard who leaves themselves vulnerable isn't blitzing. The notion that you can't turn your reflexes off is a meaningless overstatement. And skill enters into the equation a great deal. 👆
You do it yourself. 👆

I quoted you word for word, if you meant something else then that is what you should of stated, if you can't speak English then say so. This isn't an insult, this is a genuine suggestion that you should either get help comprehending the scan or you should speak clearly on what you meant.

This going to be the last time I say anything about BC
Bullet timers react after a bullet has been fired, which is precisely what happened in that scan, case closed.

I don't care if you've bashed me or not, I'm not going to coddle you and play nice, especially when you think it's ok to post nonsense and expect people to accept it just because you're being passive aggressive

Did I say once that Slade attacked Black Canary? I stated he put a bag over her head. I also stated that Daredevil dodged every attack that Cap threw at him, roping Daredevil up is not an attack

Again
Slade = bagged Canary
Cap = Roped DD
Nothing stated about an attack in either case

Lets take a look at these fights between Cap and Matt

Daredevil 43
Daredevil landed 7 hits, Cap landed 6 hits

Daredevil's fight with the Avengers, Cap attacked someone in the dark, Daredevil judo threw him

Streets of Poisons, the only time Cap dominates Daredevil, and that's because Daredevil doesn't fight back

Waid's Daredevil, as we discussed Cap didn't land a single attack and only succeeded in roping Daredevil's leg which he got of the next panel, not an attack

So...WHICH Fight did Cap dominate in?

2 things. You either admit you're wrong because in none of these fights did Cap dominate, in fact in the majority of them Daredevil comes out looking better, he either lands more hits, KO's Cap or dodges everything he throws. All of Cap and DD's fights have been circumstansial but the point is you said that Cap dominated him, which never happened, you said that Cap blitzed him, that never happened either

You can you say Streets of Poison but considering the circumstances it doesn't help your argument and proves that you've been rambling nonsense for the last few hours

No one said Spiderman was off guard, I said that he was in a position of vunerability when Cap dodged his attack.

Canary didn't leave herself in a vulnerable position either, she was looking straight at Deathstroke and was about to charge her CC before she got blitzed

Originally posted by ODG

Cap's beaten up Daredevil and he's held advantages despite the both of them being mind-controlled at times. You've read the fights as you've described some specific details so you can't plead ignorance.

Who is a legitimate bullet-timer unlike Deathstroke who hasn't a single bullet-timing feat. 👆

CAP HAS NEVER BEEN UNDER MIND CONTROL WHEN HE'S FOUGHT DAREDEVIL

DD 43 Daredevil was brain washed, NOT CAP

DOA Daredevil was drugged. NOT CAP

Streets of Poison, Cap was on Ice and Daredevil DIDN'T FIGHT BACK

In none of the fights were both Cap and DD mind controlled, and none of the fights was Cap, 2 fights Matt was drugged or brain washed, one fight Cap was drugged and Matt didn't fight back

Sweet tap dancing Jesus you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I'm not even going to bother with your Deathstroke bullet timing comment, I'm not going to bother showing the loads of scans of him deflecting gunfire with his sword and staff

It pretty shows that you aren't educated enough on Slade to formulate a valid opinion here

I didn't want to do this but I'm going to now, because when someone waste 2 hours of my time and they don't even know what they're talking about, that's inexcusable

Welcome to ignore, say hi to Srank for me

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
I quoted you word for word, if you meant something else then that is what you should of stated, if you can't speak English then say so. This isn't an insult, this is a genuine suggestion that you should either get help comprehending the scan or you should speak clearly on what you meant.

This going to be the last time I say anything about BC
Bullet timers react after a bullet has been fired, which is precisely what happened in that scan, case closed.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
I don't care if you've bashed me or not, I'm not going to coddle you and play nice, especially when you think it's ok to post nonsense and expect people to accept it just because you're being passive aggressive

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Did I say once that Slade attacked Black Canary? I stated he put a bag over her head. I also stated that Daredevil dodged every attack that Cap threw at him, roping Daredevil up is not an attack

Again
Slade = bagged Canary
Cap = Roped DD
Nothing stated about an attack in either case

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Lets take a look at these fights between Cap and Matt

Daredevil 43
Daredevil landed 7 hits, Cap landed 6 hits

Daredevil's fight with the Avengers, Cap attacked someone in the dark, Daredevil judo threw him

Streets of Poisons, the only time Cap dominates Daredevil, and that's because Daredevil doesn't fight back

Waid's Daredevil, as we discussed Cap didn't land a single attack and only succeeded in roping Daredevil's leg which he got of the next panel, not an attack

So...WHICH Fight did Cap dominate in?

I repeatedly clarified that I said Cap beat him up and held the advantage. Which he does here:

And here:

And here:

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
2 things. You either admit you're wrong because in none of these fights did Cap dominate, in fact in the majority of them Daredevil comes out looking better, he either lands more hits, KO's Cap or dodges everything he throws. All of Cap and DD's fights have been circumstansial but the point is you said that Cap dominated him, which never happened, you said that Cap blitzed him, that never happened either

You can you say Streets of Poison but considering the circumstances it doesn't help your argument and proves that you've been rambling nonsense for the last few hours

No one said Spiderman was off guard, I said that he was in a position of vunerability when Cap dodged his attack.

Canary didn't leave herself in a vulnerable position either, she was looking straight at Deathstroke and was about to charge her CC before she got blitzed

Spider-Man was in a position of vulnerability when he was leaping about attacking Cap whereas Black Canary wasn't in a position of vulnerability when she was standing still. Smart.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
CAP HAS NEVER BEEN UNDER MIND CONTROL WHEN HE'S FOUGHT DAREDEVIL

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Welcome to ignore, say hi to Srank for me

I like Deathstroke

^ Me too. DCnU Deathstroke has been a great disappointment though. Team 7 also.

Deathstroke is a badass, but I agree with you. I dont bother with his new solo series. His Teen Titans series appearances are great though.

^ You talking DCnU Teen Titans???

The older series where he caps Kid Flash in the kneecap, and kid devil is in love with Slades babe daughter.

I always was of an opinion that Matt did fairly well in their first encounter.

Captain America and Daredevil have never really had a "real" fight without heavy circumstances. One of them is always, drugged, brain washed or mind controlled, but we can still glean some information from these fights. For instance in all the fights where Daredevil's faculties are compromised, for what ever reason, the fights are virtually stalemates, with Cap hold the slight edge, even though we assume Cap is holding back given the circumstances. In the fights where Captain America's faculties are compromised, for whatever reason, Cap dominates Daredevil, who we assume is holding back given the circumstances. If the two of them were to fight for real, both with the intent of putting the other guy down, Captain America would starch Daredevil... and he'd only need to put leather on his chin once or twice to do it.

Of the six encounters they've had the closest they've come to a legitimate fight took place in the pages of Waid's Daredevil, and that was merely Cap testing Matt post Shadow Land.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
If by lying you mean humoring you because you won't let things go regardless of how many times you've been proven wrong. Then yes, I am quite a liar 🙄

I like debates to move forward and when I know someone like yourself who won't let things go regardless of how stupid their argument is, I find another approach to make them look like a bigger idiot

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/11/119394/2796413-107___teen_titans__74___page_25.jpg

Second panel, Rose deflects a bullet with her sword

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/themanwonder/Agility-Speed/nw98-flreshield1.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/themanwonder/Agility-Speed/nw98-flreshield2.jpg

Not only does Nightwing react after the cops shoot him, but he's able to move Firefly, a full grown adult in full body armor, in the way of the bullets

LOL at you trying to pass those off as bullet time feats.

I recall Slade dodging a bullet at close range after it was fired. He not only dodged it but saved some guy standing behind him.

That would be a bullet time feat, however the two feats sCOURGE just posted don't qualify as bullet time.

The Nightwing one kinda does...

Originally posted by Silent Master
LOL at you trying to pass those off as bullet time feats.

Now I am 100% convinced that you are borderline retarded...

Both of those fit the definition of a bullet timer..acting after the bullet was fired

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I always was of an opinion that Matt did fairly well in their first encounter.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
At first I thought you were simply delusional

Now I am 100% convinced that you are borderline retarded...

Both of those fit the definition of a bullet timer..acting after the bullet was fired

The first example has the bullet being fired and hitting the sword in the same panel and there are no movement lines around the sword, IOW the sword was already in that position.

As for the second example, please point out which bullet was about to hit Nightwing.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Nightwing one kinda does...

Not really, you don't see any bullets about to hit Nightwing, it's just your standard group open fires and the heroe dodges, gets behind cover.