Deathstroke or Captain America????

Originally posted by namorsubby
Many Times. Stated as 10 to 25 men depending on the instance. Has effortlessly ripped through walls like paper, kicked down a reinforced steel door, lifted and threw thousands of lb worth of sarcophigi pieces off of him AFTER they fell on him. Made two wonder women bleed with striking force. Hurt Lex in his green power suit with striking. The list goes on.

Like it or not Srank, Batman has comparable strengh feats to Cap. Amazingly visually similar feats at that. And Slade is easily stronger than Bruce, we know that from their encounters.

Cap has similar statements...IE being stronger than half a platoon, Platoons BTW are between 26-64 people.

I'll leave the vague feats for srank since he asked for them to be posted.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap has similar statements...IE being stronger than half a platoon, Platoons BTW are between 26-64 people.

I'll leave the vague feats for srank since he asked for them to be posted.

Originally posted by namorsubby
They have been, in my thread. And throughout numerous threads here in the vs section in the past. Not hard to find.

Like I said, Cap has similar statements...IE being stronger than half a platoon, Platoons BTW are between 26-64 people.

*scans of Cap blocking Hulk stone cold, and then beating the shit out of him*

Originally posted by namorsubby
Many Times. Stated as 10 to 25 men depending on the instance. Has effortlessly ripped through walls like paper, kicked down a reinforced steel door, lifted and threw thousands of lb worth of sarcophigi pieces off of him AFTER they fell on him. Made two wonder women bleed with striking force. Hurt Lex in his green power suit with striking. The list goes on.

Like it or not Srank, Batman has comparable strengh feats to Cap. Amazingly visually similar feats at that. And Slade is easily stronger than Bruce, we know that from their encounters.

Like I said, nothing but lies and anecdotes. Captain America has the exact same "strength of 10 men!" "strength of 20 men!" "strength of a half a platoon!" anecdotal statements from various characters lauding his strength that Slade has, but unlike Slade, Steve's actually mean something. Why? Because Captain America has legitimate strength feats to go with them.

For the love of god would you stop lying about the weight of sarcophagi? Jesus. If they are not in a giant stone outer coffin they DO. NOT. WEIGHT. THOUSANDS. OF. POUNDS! They weight a couple of hundred. That's it. I sourced museum articles THAT DIRECTLY STATE THAT. Hell,THE ARTICLE YOU POSTED TRYING TO PROVE ME WRONG DIRECTLY STATED THAT AS WELL. It comes as a surprise to no one you apparently have no semblance of reading comprehension.

Cap's gone shot for shot Iron Man in his armor, and his melee'd Namor and Hulk... but those aren't strength feats.

Captain America and Batman do not have "amazingly similar" strength feats. Cap's are clearly a step above Batman's as was evident the last time this was brought up to everyone except you. You lie through your f@cking teeth to exaggerate Batman's feats, then do everything in your power to low ball Caps. You're a joke.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Like I said, Cap has similar statements...IE being stronger than half a platoon, Platoons BTW are between 26-64 people.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
Anyway

Stronger? Cap
Faster? Slade
More durable? Slade because of armor
Better fighter? Even
More tactical? Slade
Best healing? Slade
Agile? Even
Smarter? Slade
Best striking power? Cap with shield, Slade otherwise

I think it's fairly accurate after reading a good chunk of both characters material

Well... you're mistaken.

Faster? Slade? I don't think so. His best speed feat is jumping between the blade of a spinning industrial fan. Impressive... but not quite up to snuff with Cap's best, and Captain America has never been blitzed by Nightwing, Slade has.

More durable? Because of armor? You are aware that Slade's armor is routinely destroyed? That it has been penetrated by stiletto blades and small arms fire? Slade's armor obviously has also been shown to no sell artillery fire on occasion as well but Cap's armor is far more consistent than Slade's. Sans armor? Slade's been taken down by machine gun fire even while wearing his armor, Cap's taken machine gun fire to the chest in his civies, and kept fighting. You can disregard that from durability if you believe it's a healing feat if you'd like, but he also had Gambit charge his armor, and tanked the explosion like it was nothing. He's also stayed in the pocket and gone shot for shot with Iron Man.

Better fighter? Even? That's laughable. Captain America doesn't get tooled by guys like Nightwing or Arsenal in melee combat. Captain America is more skilled than Deathstroke. Much more skilled. Punisher is much more skilled than Deathstroke. Slade just isn't that good of a fighter. He gets buy on low level super human attributes, not combat skill.

Striking? Slade sans shield? Captain America has two shoted the Hulk. He's smashed through re-inforced SHIELD windows designed to stand up to ballistic missiles. He has much better striking feats than Slade does.

Originally posted by sCOURGE_0
That actually sounds accurate. Bats was able to move a giant piller that a dozen swat members weren't able to budge. If Cap is about as strong as half a platoon I'd say that's pretty accurate because I believe him stronger [but not vastly stronger] than Bats.

Depends on what you would consider "vastly", based on feats...Cap has a very noticable edge in strength.

By feats Cap is about 2-4 times stronger than Batman, not an insurmountable advantage, but significant. Bruce is peak human. Captain America is super human.

IMO, Batman is closer to Daredevil in strength.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
By feats Cap is about 2-4 times stronger than Batman, not an insurmountable advantage, but significant. Bruce is peak human. Captain America is super human.

Cap is about 20 times stronger than Batman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IMO, Batman is closer to Daredevil in strength.

Exactly.

Some deluded people want to draw parallels between Captain America and Batman... but those parallels do not exist. Marvel has a much deeper Street Level talent pool then DC does, it's only natural that there are big fish swimming in that pool. Daredevil is Marvel's closest counter part to Batman, and Captain America is physically superior to them both.

Daredevil has a Batgirl + style body reading ability that has trumped legitimate precog in combat, so it's obviously not a perfect equivocacy.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Ridiculoisly untrue. Cap is BARELY superhuman level strength. Bruce isn't through statement or description, but certainly through feats.

Batman is in the one thousand lbs range. Captain America is in the two ton range.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Batman is in the one thousand lbs range. Captain America is in the two ton range.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Ridiculoisly untrue. Cap is BARELY superhuman level strength. Bruce isn't through statement or description, but certainly through feats.

If you consider Batman to be peak human, then by feats Cap is well into the low superhuman range.

Slade obviously has far better speed feats. All of which Srank even refuses to acknowledge as speed feats, which is moronic. Not just ALL those flashes through the years, but he routinely outmanuevers super fast foes and many opponents of various levels of speed altogether in groups. He is EASILY faster and EASILY has better reflexes. Hes said many times that he holds back against street levels like nightwing, who he effortlessly thrashes when he has a mind to, but Srank is such a low baller when it comes to slade that its the only thing he brings up time and again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If you consider Batman to be peak human, then by feats Cap is well into the low superhuman range.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Bruce is well over a thousand and there is absolutely nothing to suggest cap lifting capability is 4000 freakin' lbs on average

No he isn't. There is nothing to suggest that Captain America isn't 4000lbs on Average. All most all the strength feats posted for him are accomplished by him seemingly coasting without any struggle. Causally walking around with utility poles slung over his shoulder. Pulling helicopters out of the sky. Stopping cars in their tracks by grabbing the back bumpers. Throwing massive chucks of concrete. Batman's best feats are accomplished under tremendous strain with great effort on his part... and they still don't match Caps. Most of the Batman strength feats that get brought up are do or die, mother lifting a car of their child feats of hysterical strength accomplished under duress that don't accurate represent Batman's strength level. Some of Caps feats fall under that category... but most of them do not.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Slade obviously has far bettee speed feats. All of which Srank even refuses to acknowledge as speed feats, which is moronic. Not just ALL those flashes through the years, but he routinely outmanuevers super fast foes and many opponents of various levels of speed altogether in groups. He is EASILY faster and EASILY has better reflexes. Hes said many times that he holds back against street levels like nightwing, who he effortlessly thrashes when he has a mind t, but Srank is such a low baller when it comes to slade that its the only thing he bruins up time and again.

I notice that you keep trying to move the topic away from strength, should this be taken as an admission on your part that Cap is stronger?

Huh? Cap is well stronger than Batman. Even if you want to argue that Batman could beat Steve, strength isn't really a good way to go for it.