Deadliest Melee Weapon
If you have a honed killer ninja with a sinewy body and pristine relfexes I think (s)he can overcome any other armed opponent (melee) with a couple of Kyoketshu Shogei Knives.
The carnage would be complex, precise, and clean.
Any other input as per what the deadliest melee weapon possibly is?
Dolos: Has the shatterpoint charism, is a Zabrak Sith Ninja, master of Form IV, Ataru. I wield Kyoketshu Shogei Knives with; knives and chains made from a Kortosis-alloy (deactivates lightsaber blades and is immune to their energy).
Can't stop me wit your slow non-nimble single bladed lightsaber wielding ass.
Originally posted by Dolos
Dolos: Has the shatterpoint charism, is a Zabrak Sith Ninja, master of Form IV, Ataru. I wield Kyoketshu Shogei Knives with; knives and chains made from a Kortosis-alloy (deactivates lightsaber blades and is immune to their energy).Can't stop me wit your slow non-nimble single bladed lightsaber wielding ass.
A true Star Wars fan would know that it's Cortosis with a C, and Cortosis-Alloy doesn't short out a saber blade, it only resists them but can still get cut through after a while. Pure Cortosis shorts out a saber blade, but the guy with the saber can just turn it back on after a few seconds. Also there's certain saber crystals that make a lightsaber completely immune to Cortosis.
BOOM! 😱
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
"honed killer... with a sinewy body and pristine relfexes" could use a plethora of melee weapons, not just rope knives.And facing down an equally capable opponent with a spear or polearm, that knife-rope is gonna tangled/cut real quick.
Doesn't have to be a rope, could be a chain. The knife could be attached to a chain that is a lot longer than any spear. If he has the technical ability to fully straighten it out before the spearman can get the tip of his spear near him, he's dead.
As far as shields, a chain bends, so you can stab a guy crouched beneath his shield from the side of his head while stand in front of him. You have to snap it perfectly, but you have longer range in stabbing motions than with a spear. The flexibility of the chain, and the way this weapon has to be used against other weapons, makes it unpredictable. Yet, in theory, it can be used as or even more effectively than one could use any other different kind of melee weapon (thrusting, slashing, tangling/tripping up, strangulation), it's ambuigity gives it the greatest versatility.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Revolvers>reliable melee weapons>Kusarigama>this piece of weeabo wankery
You act like the application of this weapon is impossible beyond coreographed cinematic sequences. What if I told you that a person is fully capable of using it in the way I describe above your quote?
Ninjas are out there, man.
However the human part of the equation is irrelevant, in theory the chain-knives are versatile enough to be used to overcome any weapon, as well as to kill more opponents more quickly than with any other melee weapon.
I see your silly little knife on a chain and raise you a ****ing polearm. 😐
http://www.bownet.org/jvulgamore/armor%20and%20weapons/Halberd.jpg
In the hands of an equally capable combatant it is more deadly in every situation with the sole exception of 'you're fighting in a broom closet'.
It is easier to lunge with a polearm. In fact it's very difficult to lunge with the chain-knives. However, timing and precision can overcome all. The polearm is not more versatile, it doesn't bend, if you are in a tight spot with the chain knives wrap the chain around your body and just use the knives as daggers. A polearm master could easily be taken apart by Kyoketshu Shogei Knives. Let the polearm lung toward him, he'll time his evasion perfectly, get behind the polearm, and kill him with his knives if the chains are tight, or trip him up if they are lose and finish by gutting the polearm man. That's one of many tacts. 🙄
You assume they're fighting in a closet? That's legitimately the only time the knife user has the advantage, if at any time the chain becomes entangled with the polearm the polearm user has every advantage then as well because he has more available grip, and the disarm is comparatively easy for him.
Also, combatants of equal skill, none of this 'the polearm guy misses and then is killed because anime' shit, not only is the polearm wielder just as or more likely to get a hit in, his hits are all instant kills. The damage a halberd does to a human body is ... Yeah.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You assume they're fighting in a closet? That's legitimately the only time the knife user has the advantage, if at any time the chain becomes entangled with the polearm the polearm user has every advantage then as well because he has more available grip, and the disarm is comparatively easy for him.
Depends on how funky this guy fights and how long his chain is.
Suppose he has two knives, one on each end of a 15 foot chain. He could tangle the tip of one chain and knife around the spear, and the other around the guy's neck or ankle - with that chain wrapped more closely around my guy. A lunge would not disarm my guy as he avoids the spear, because his chain would not run out of room until the spearman is way past and is tripped or whipped to the ground because he was just yanked with a chain around his neck. Now my guy controls his body and can use that to redirect his spear like a bull-fighter and throw him with some quantum suicide judo-drop.
Also, combatants of equal skill, none of this 'the polearm guy misses and then is killed because anime' shit, not only is the polearm wielder just as or more likely to get a hit in, his hits are all instant kills. The damage a halberd does to a human body is ... Yeah. [/B]
Any sharply shaped edge composed of steel going through the face is equally lethal.
Oh, and he can throw a knife on a chain through a human skull (hard, unlikely to work) as easily as a polearm wielding knight could poke him in the torso (easy, practical)
If he has two knives and attempts that, he loses both, the first when the polearm is pulled, and the second when it's swung at either him or the chain. The second swing kills him.
That's assuming he pulled it off at all, which he simply won't because he isn't Neo. haermm
Originally posted by DolosWouldn't happen.
Depends on how funky this guy fights and how long his chain is.Suppose he has two knives, one on each end of a 15 foot chain. He could tangle the tip of one chain and knife around the spear, and the other around the guy's neck or ankle. A lunge would not disarm my guy as he avoids the spear, because his chain would not run out of room until the spearman is way past and is tripped or whipped to the ground because he was just yanked with a chain around his neck. Now my guy controls his body and can use that to redirect his spear like a bull-fighter and throw him with some quantum suicide judo-drop.
Any sharply shaped edge composed of steel going through the face is equally lethal.
The Polearm guy would easily be able to disarm the one hand snatch of his weapon.
Plus 15 foot chains are unweildly enough using two hands trying to use one in each hand is recipe for disaster.
If he has two knives and attempts that, he loses both, the first when the polearm is pulled, and the second when it's swung at either him or the chain. The second swing kills him.
That's why the chain wrapped around his neck is the length of the halbred tighter than the chain around the middle of his halbred, as he passes. He's either tripped or yanked the ground if he doesn't stop his lunge quickly enough, and if he does the knive wielder wrap the chain tighter and throw him anyway.
