Deadliest Melee Weapon

I'm sorry, did he just say a cylinder can cut with enough force?

While true, I doubt any human can reliably produce such an effect.

Every post Dolos makes gives me the impression that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Or that he's trying to be cute/clever.

I think he bought one of these things and is trying to rationalize the expense.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I think he bought one of these things and is trying to rationalize the expense.

lol

What I said in a nutshell:

"Well I have superstrength. Now I can shove the cylindrical part of my halbred through a man's torso as easily as with a sword. That gives me more uses for this weapon than just stabbing. If I am not in a position to stab someone, I can just use this as a sword for convenience. Furthermore I can hold any part of this halbred with my fleshly hand, couldn't hold the edge of a sword so easily. Dang, Spears don't bend like chain, and no matter how hard a clash or jab it across this shield they are both made of metal. Guess I need a chain fling around this shield, the part that gets to this coward will kill cut through because he's just flesh unlike his shield. Yet I am strong enough now I can still use the chain as a blade to slice, as spear to stab if I heave it into a straight line, top of the chain going through his tosro and all, just as easily as a I could with a sword or a spear. Furthermore, I could pull the center of this chain into a tight grip and use a section of the chain to block and parry just as easily as with a sword or a halbred. From now on I'll use a giant fricken chain."

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(any) gun butt. keep the gun loaded though just in case the butt knock doesn't work. that and you'd be ready to shoot, with your opponent knowing that.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
(any) gun butt. keep the gun loaded though just in case the butt knock doesn't work. that and you'd be ready to shoot, with your opponent knowing that.

If used to shoot, it's a ranged weapon. If used to pistol whip, it's a shit melee weapon.

not if caught by surprise. guns, including hand guns, can be rather weighty and put in the right hands even bette,r a strong person, on an unsuspecting target, a good old hard knock will practically guarenteed a knockout. Or a dizzying stun which can be followed by repeated knocks.

Originally posted by Dolos
What I said in a nutshell:

"Well I have superstrength. Now I can shove the cylindrical part of my halbred through a man's torso as easily as with a sword. That gives me more uses for this weapon than just stabbing. If I am not in a position to stab someone, I can just use this as a sword for convenience. Furthermore I can hold any part of this halbred with my fleshly hand, couldn't hold the edge of a sword so easily. Dang, Spears don't bend like chain, and no matter how hard a clash or jab it across this shield they are both made of metal. Guess I need a chain fling around this shield, the part that gets to this coward will kill cut through because he's just flesh unlike his shield. Yet I am strong enough now I can still use the chain as a blade to slice, as spear to stab if I heave it into a straight line, top of the chain going through his tosro and all, just as easily as a I could with a sword or a spear. Furthermore, I could pull the center of this chain into a tight grip and use a section of the chain to block and parry just as easily as with a sword or a halbred. From now on I'll use a giant fricken chain."

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I think you're confusing a halberd with a kusarigama.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
not if caught by surprise. guns, including hand guns, can be rather weighty and put in the right hands even bette,r a strong person, on an unsuspecting target, a good old hard knock will practically guarenteed a knockout. Or a dizzying stun which can be followed by repeated knocks.

It still is not as effective as a dedicated melee weapon, lol.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think you're confusing a halberd with a kusarigama.

If the first image is a halbred then nope, not confusing them.

As for the second pic, I'm just talking about a straight 15-30 ft chain, nothing attached. Like Zeus here.

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In the hands of a superhuman a chain would be more versatile than any other thing that could be used in melee.

That's what I meant by "perplexity" (far out there) of capabilities. I wasn't neccessarily referring to just skill, exotic weapons gain uses they didn't have before. The physics behind the sort of communication between each link in the chain reflects how it really could be wielded by Zeus here if there really was someone that strong.

Originally posted by Dolos
The physics behind the sort of communication between each link in the chain

You feeling alright, son?

Originally posted by Robtard
You feeling alright, son?

Not literally obviously. Lol.

As one link moves, it tells the next one how and where to go. What direction, how much force put into the direction. With superstrength a man can direct and coordinate such communication with limb amputating precision if this is a heavy 30 foot chain.

It's probably just inertia that causes a swung chain to extend out.

thats the same thing as communicating, derp!

Originally posted by Dolos
Not literally obviously. Lol.

As one link moves, it tells the next one how and where to go. What direction, how much force put into the direction. With superstrength a man can direct and coordinate such communication with limb amputating precision if this is a heavy 30 foot chain.

So the person using these weapons now have superhuman strength?

Originally posted by Newjak
With Superhuman strength?

So the person using these weapons now have superhuman strength?

As is whoever is using your polearm. The physics change now that the chain with knives on the end is just as lethal, but for the human wielding far more versatile as he can cause it to do all kinds of things he couldn't before. He has gained the ability to use a 15 chain that has reach on your polearm, and use it to snatch an ankle from a safe distance while the polearm has the same strength physical abilities, but without a weapon capable of folding around ankles, curving its tip around the bulk of a shield when lunging with it. It has no malleable links, the chain can be heaved to curve around the shield and still unfold its links, allowing the knife at the tip to penetrate the man behind the shield, bypassing it altogether. For someone that precise handling a chain in such a way is no more difficult than handling a shield or an axe or a sword, its just he can do more with it. And retains the functionality of stabbing, slicing, and parrying because of his strength.

Thus exotic weapons become more effective as skill and capabilities increase.

so in a universe where you get to set the parameters such that your thesis is correct, your thesis is correct?

woah!

If the person has superhuman strength, they would be just ass effective using their ****ing fists against mortals, as with weapons.

Put them against someone equally capable? Once more, polearm or Zweihander wins.