Originally posted by Newjak
Wouldn't happen.The Polearm guy would easily be able to disarm the one hand snatch of his weapon.
Plus 15 foot chains are unweildly enough using two hands trying to use one in each hand is recipe for disaster.
Depends on the height and lank of the wielder really, as well as his conditioned strength and coordination.
Originally posted by DolosWhat lunge? How is he even getting the chain around someone else's neck from out of polearm range? How is he tripping him? How is he maintaining his hold on said chains while the guy with the infinitely more practical weapon yanks them out of his hands with his sturdier, more comfortable grip that comes with an entire shaft for leverage? How does he avoid being instagib poked with weapons that have no defensive capability AND no long range kill potential? Your argument makes no sense. Polearm wins every time.
That's why the chain wrapped around his neck is the length of the halbred tighter than the chain around the middle of his halbred, as he passes. He's either tripped or yanked the ground if he doesn't stop his lunge quickly enough, and if he does the knive wielder wrap the chain tighter and throw him anyway.
Originally posted by DolosSince this is a test of the weapon I was assuming we were using people of equal physical abilities in which case Polearm would easily defend a one handed snatch of his weapon and disarm the other person.
Depends on the height and lank of the wielder really, as well as his conditioned strength and coordination.
Originally posted by Newjak
Since this is a test of the weapon I was assuming we were using people of equal physical abilities in which case Polearm would easily defend a one handed snatch of his weapon and disarm the other person.
His skin could be too durable for the knife or spear to cut.
Just drop it, how did this get so ridiculous where we're trying to work out a coreography here. It's all very pseudo-scientific. You're definately right that I am blowing this weapon out of proportions here. Seriously I apologize.
Originally posted by DolosYou act like the application of this weapon is impossible beyond coreographed cinematic sequences. What if I told you that a person is fully capable of using it in the way I describe above your quote?
Ninjas are out there, man.
However the human part of the equation is irrelevant, in theory the chain-knives are versatile enough to be used to overcome any weapon, as well as to kill more opponents more quickly than with any other melee weapon.
"In theory"? Whose theory?
I'd prefer the zweihander over the polearm myself.
The sheer versatility of the weapon is amazing. You can use it to slash and thrust, you can grib the blade to use it as a speer, you can use it as a mace by gripping the blade and bashing with the pommel or crossguard. it is truly an incredible weapon.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I would tell you that in most if not all situations a more traditional weapon in equally skilled hands would be more useful."In theory"? Whose theory?
Actually as the perplexity of human capacity increases, the use of more exotic weapons becomes more efficient. At best you can use a sword or a spear or a trident or a pitch fork as a pole that can be twirled with phantom speed and technical perfection while cutting opponents into bits. However, so could a giant chain, except the chain can be used for more than stabbing, slicing, and dicing, it can also grip, throw, trap and pull enemies.
Of course we are no longer talking about humans, we're talking The Matrix. However, as for the principle, it's still physically accurate.
Originally posted by Dolos
Actually as the perplexity of human capacity increases, the use of more exotic weapons becomes more efficient.
At best you can use a sword or a spear or a trident or a pitch fork as a pole that can be twirled with phantom speed and technical perfection while cutting opponents into bits.
However, so could a giant chain, except the chain can be used for more than stabbing, slicing, and dicing, it can also grip, throw, trap and pull enemies.
Of course we are no longer talking about humans, we're talking The Matrix. However, as for the principle, it's still physically accurate.
Originally posted by Dolos
If the trident is made out of metal, it can go through flesh with enough force behind it. So can a chain. I you can literally make twenty slashes every half second you may as well be using a sword as a ninja stick.
But no one can. And how does slashing faster make a sword more pole-like?