Shaming Fat People is what Society Needs?

http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2013/01/24/16664866-fat-shaming-may-curb-obesity-bioethicist-says

Unhappy with the slow pace of public health efforts to curb America’s stubborn obesity epidemic, a prominent bioethicist is proposing a new push for what he says is an “edgier strategy” to promote weight loss: ginning up social stigma.

Daniel Callahan, a senior research scholar and president emeritus of The Hastings Center, put out a new paper this week calling for a renewed emphasis on social pressure against heavy people -- what some may call fat-shaming -- including public posters that would pose questions like this:
“If you are overweight or obese, are you pleased with the way that you look?”

Callahan outlined a strategy that applauds efforts to boost education, promote public health awareness of obesity and curb marketing of unhealthy foods to children.

But, he added, those plans could do with a dose of shame if there’s any hope of repairing a nation where more than a third of adults and 17 percent of kids are obese.

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Is he right?

Some disorders are specifically due to the stigma of being fat or the perception that one is fat. Seems like there is enough shaming, already. Ask a fat person if they think they are fat (make sure you know them, or you'll get smacked...or something). Almost all will admit to being fat. They are probably ashamed to be seen without some of their clothes (shirt off or swimsuit) off. So why does this dude think more shaming is needed? It won't work.

What we need is forced exercise. 🙂 Fascism for the win? WEEEEEEEE!

Conscript every fat person. They'll lose weight and provide meat shields in the mean time.

But no, a public (and publicly-funded) shaming campaign is a terrible idea. Not that it won't get results, but that it kind of goes against the whole spirit of choosing who and what you want to be. If some private company or organization wants to spend their own money on something like this, go for it. But a shaming program operated by the government and paid for with taxpayer dollars? F*ck no.

Bad idea; the people who need to be shamed are the heads of fast food corporations and snack food companies.

Trial run: if we can shame the WBC in to disbandment, then give it a try with fatties.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bad idea; the people who need to be shamed are the heads of fast food corporations and snack food companies.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Some disorders are specifically due to the stigma of being fat or the perception that one is fat. Seems like there is enough shaming, already. Ask a fat person if they think they are fat (make sure you know them, or you'll get smacked...or something). Almost all will admit to being fat. They are probably ashamed to be seen without some of their clothes (shirt off or swimsuit) off. So why does this dude think more shaming is needed? It won't work.

On the other hand, I think bringing back public shaming -- for a variety of reasons much worse than "being overweight" -- may not be such a bad idea.

How do you prove if one is "physically fit" or not?

Because if just going by who looks fit, regardless of physical ability, we are judging solely based on aesthetic.

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2013/01/24/16664866-fat-shaming-may-curb-obesity-bioethicist-says

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Is he right?

Some disorders are specifically due to the stigma of being fat or the perception that one is fat. Seems like there is enough shaming, already. Ask a fat person if they think they are fat (make sure you know them, or you'll get smacked...or something). Almost all will admit to being fat. They are probably ashamed to be seen without some of their clothes (shirt off or swimsuit) off. So why does this dude think more shaming is needed? It won't work.

What we need is forced exercise. 🙂 Fascism for the win? WEEEEEEEE!

He's a ****.

Originally posted by Omega Vision Bad idea; the people who need to be shamed are the heads of fast food corporations and snack food companies.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien If some private company or organization wants to spend their own money on something like this, go for it. But a shaming program operated by the government and paid for with taxpayer dollars? F*ck no.

People that continually go out to eat are more to blame then the actual fast food company imo. But then you also have to take into account people that are poor and how it could benefit them more to eat fast food. Although, if you can hold fast food accountable for that then health food companies should be held accountable for their prices being to high. Not to mention coupons could be used to buy groceries.

Originally posted by Mindship
👆 , as well as the diet and fashion industries for pushing "thin" way too far (ie, to unhealthy extremes), so that even normal-weight people question their attractiveness.

I think this is the main problem. Some people like eating and become obese while some can't help it because of medical conditions. Also there are people that want to lose weight but get discouraged. It's all up to them and their is no reason to make people feel bad about themselves because of the life choices they make......in this instance at least....

Originally posted by dadudemon
http://todayhealth.today.com/_news/2013/01/24/16664866-fat-shaming-may-curb-obesity-bioethicist-says

Read the rest of the article.

Is he right?

Some disorders are specifically due to the stigma of being fat or the perception that one is fat. Seems like there is enough shaming, already. Ask a fat person if they think they are fat (make sure you know them, or you'll get smacked...or something). Almost all will admit to being fat. They are probably ashamed to be seen without some of their clothes (shirt off or swimsuit) off. So why does this dude think more shaming is needed? It won't work.

What we need is forced exercise. 🙂 Fascism for the win? WEEEEEEEE!

Lol.

You're right, in this case, fascism is for your own good.
😈

But what about people like me, who are just big boned?

Originally posted by Bardock42
But what about people like me, who are just big boned?

You learn something every day.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But what about people like me, who are just big boned?

You're lucky to have a body type in which your shoulders can be broad when you bulk.

I saw a highschooler the other day, with the face of a middle schooler, who was about eight feet tall. Now didn't rhave any fat, anywhere..really.

However, he will never look normal. He must have been reincarnated from a giraffe.

Some people's samototypes are too extreme to ever look normal, though, you have to stay sensitive.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If some private company or organization wants to spend their own money on something like this, go for it.

Why the hell would you support a private company that exists only to insult and attack people?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bad idea; the people who need to be shamed are the heads of fast food corporations and snack food companies.

I enjoy those products very much and I can tell you I am in better shape than anyone in this thread except for you (yeah, I've seen your pictures, you sexy beast).

It is not necessarily what one eats but what they do. Granted, I do eat more than just junk foods and fast foods. But one can have a 5000 calorie diet and still be fit as ****.

If you burn more calories than you consume you will lose weight.

It's just certain foods sold by certain big dollar companies, almost every food resturant out there, sells mostly foods that cause chemical dependency. Therefore if someone has neurological issues, or even emotional problems, they will succumb to gluttony.

Doesn't mean we should or can do anything about what food is sold to who.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why the hell would you support a private company that exists only to insult and attack people?

Originally posted by dadudemon
I enjoy those products very much and I can tell you I am in better shape than anyone in this thread except for you (yeah, I've seen your pictures, you sexy beast).

It is not necessarily what one eats but what they do. Granted, I do eat more than just junk foods and fast foods. But one can have a 5000 calorie diet and still be fit as ****.

They'll lose weight and provide meat shields in the mean time.

Originally posted by Dolos
I saw a highschooler the other day, with the face of a middle schooler, who was about eight feet tall.

That would make him the tallest person on Earth.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I enjoy those products very much and I can tell you I am in better shape than anyone in this thread except for you (yeah, I've seen your pictures, you sexy beast).

It is not necessarily what one eats but what they do. Granted, I do eat more than just junk foods and fast foods. But one can have a 5000 calorie diet and still be fit as ****.

Don't lie you fat, pasty, out of shape piece of shit.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That would make him the tallest person on Earth.