Originally posted by StyleTime
Metabolism isn't set in stone. Changing your body composition will change your metabolism, regardless of how obese you were beforehand.
Ergo muscle mass.
Also, dude. There is just....no way you sat there and only drank water for 3 weeks straight with no calories consumed.
It was more around 500 calories in 3 weeks, calories coming from small pieces of lettuce, and near the end of the third week nothing. I was able to do it because I was in between being obese and a healthy weight, so the hormones didn't stack as greatly as they would in a normal obese person, but I still had a lot of fat to eat. My body kept a good 10 out of 40 pounds of pure fat...that's hormones preserving fat usage by eating muscle what not despite muscle stimulation.
In one had your body realizes it's not getting enough energy to provide for healthy function neccessary to survive, on the other your muscles are being worked, tellling your body that it needs them strong to pull you out of survival situations as far is it can decipher. So it's at a quandry, feed off of the muscles, or feed off of the fat. Eventually it has to give into eating the fat, but when your body is running dangerously low on fat, ergo ten pounds, you really need to lift heavy shit to keep your muscles.
Originally posted by DolosAlmost everything you said is wrong.
Overweight people cannot reduce calories without increasing fat storing hormones. Their metabolisms are set in stone. If by the off chance they do manage to lose quite a bit of weight, they will have such high quantities of fat storing hormones like estrogen that if they eat just a little bit they can take a lot of fat from that. And you need food to survive. I noticed that as I ate less and less the weight loss began to slow down, it halted until I pretty much had to go on the water diet Omega Vision mention to lose any more.Now I just shit it all out and the weight can go down a lot faster.
Originally posted by Mindset
Almost everything you said is wrong.
Then to put it more simply; diets neccessarily reduce your bmr, and upping caloric intake can increase it. If your metabolism goes up you shit it out, if it goes down it turns into flab. Thus is your body's propensity to maintain it's weight.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, this. One can significantly change their resting metabolic rate literally overnight.
If by overnight you mean however long it takes to repair microtrauma in muscle fibers after a long day at the gym, then yes. It increases because the muscles overcompensate after repair, it's called hypertrophy.
Originally posted by Dolos
If by overnight you mean however long it takes to repair microtrauma in muscle fibers after a long day at the gym, then yes. It increases because the muscles overcompensate after repair, it's called hypertrophy.
In the absence of adequate nutrients, it is not called hypertrophy and almost always results in something else called muscular catabolism. One can actually increase their bodyfat percentage because the muscles are easier to breakdown, under stress, than adipose tissues.
And in a hyperketonemia state, this results in gluconeogenesis which is desirable for one looking to lose bodyfat but only under a desirable ketogenesis state, not a harmful starvation state such as the catabolic one I described, above.
Originally posted by Dolos
Overweight people cannot reduce calories without increasing fat storing hormones. Their metabolisms are set in stone. If by the off chance they do manage to lose quite a bit of weight, they will have such high quantities of fat storing hormones like estrogen that if they eat just a little bit they can take a lot of fat from that. And you need food to survive. I noticed that as I ate less and less the weight loss began to slow down, it halted until I pretty much had to go on the water diet Omega Vision mention to lose any more.Now I just shit it all out and the weight can go down a lot faster.
Originally posted by dadudemon
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And in a hyperketonemia state, this results in gluconeogenesis which is desirable for one looking to lose bodyfat but only under a desirable ketogenesis state, not a harmful starvation state such as the catabolic one I described, above.
So how do you induce hyperketonemia?
I know how to induce muscle hypetropy and catabolism, but not hyperketonemia, doesn't really sound possible as ketogens only come into being from starvation.
Originally posted by Dolos
Ergo muscle mass.
Originally posted by Dolos
It was more around 500 calories in 3 weeks, calories coming from small pieces of lettuce, and near the end of the third week nothing. I was able to do it because I was in between being obese and a healthy weight, so the hormones didn't stack as greatly as they would in a normal obese person, but I still had a lot of fat to eat. My body kept a good 10 out of 40 pounds of pure fat...that's hormones preserving fat usage by eating muscle what not despite muscle stimulation.In one had your body realizes it's not getting enough energy to provide for healthy function neccessary to survive, on the other your muscles are being worked, tellling your body that it needs them strong to pull you out of survival situations as far is it can decipher. So it's at a quandry, feed off of the muscles, or feed off of the fat. Eventually it has to give into eating the fat, but when your body is running dangerously low on fat, ergo ten pounds, you really need to lift heavy shit to keep your muscles.
Infant coma patients with no legs eat more calories than that. Get outta here with that shiznol.
Originally posted by Dolos
So how do you induce hyperketonemia?I know how to induce muscle hypetropy and catabolism, but not hyperketonemia, doesn't really sound possible as ketogens only come into being from starvation.
I know it will seem obvious, in hindsight, but you just have to have a decent ketogenic diet. 😄
I will stick with metabolic anabolism thank you.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Bull. Shit. Dude.Infant coma patients with no legs eat more calories than that. Get outta here with that shiznol.
Oh you're wrong. I'm not exactly sane. In fact I'm so sane that what I have is worse than insanity...or better depending on my mood.
I will admit my stomach lining had problems, couldn't shit right for weeks and weeks after the ordeal. The advantages of having abs and a leaner physique was worth it for me.
Fat people have been shamed almost forever. It's just fat people just don't care.
Birds flock together I guess.
I've always had an insane metabolism and have been able to eat what I want and not gain any fat at all. I like to eat slowly, take a few bites, chew slowly, have a walk or conversation then take a few more bites.
But lately I've seen an alarming amount of people who suck down food like pelicans............
They literally suck food down at a rapid rate. And the lot of them look at me with disdain at how fast I'm eating mine.
Some literally take a chunk of food, put it in their mouth and swallow it without chewing!
WTF!!!
I watch an alarming amount of people "deepthroat" food on a daily basis.
It's like people don't even care about how food tastes anymore and the priority is just to get it the hell in there as fast as possible so they don't have to feel guilty about it.