How powerful would this person be?

Originally posted by Mindship
there may well be limitations

I understand. That's why I said every physically possible (as we know it) universe. What I mean is that the universal wavefunction is limited to all possible universes with our set physical laws. Thus, the wavefunction would comprise of everything that could possibly exist under our set physical laws as created by the Big Bang (as we know it).

As such, the universal wavefunction does not include:

-universes/structures that could have arisen from different physical laws from ours (alterations of our physical laws, if you will) that could have possibly been produced by the Big Bang (as we know it)

-universes with different initial conditions and physical laws different than ours

-impossible universes that can't exist under any physical laws or initial conditions; pure information states

-something beyond that

Alrighty.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Alrighty.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Let's say they wanted to teleport.

I would imagine something akin to a quantum-tunneling effect, or a quantum leap, like how electrons jump from one electron shell to another, would be doable. This always comes to my mind:

Each peak represents the highest probability of an object's existence. Teleporting simply involves 'pressing down' a peak in one spot so that (at the same time) the peak rises somewhere else...almost like whack-a-mole.

I would do the opposite. Rather than travelling into a quantum subspace, I would travel into a 4d hyperspace, where I could see the 3d world as a flat plane and choose my location. Similarly, to time travel, I would travel to a 5d hyperspace.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I would do the opposite. Rather than travelling into a quantum subspace, I would travel into a 4d hyperspace, where I could see the 3d world as a flat plane and choose my location.

Ultimately, it is the writer who is God here.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I understand. That's why I said every physically possible (as we know it) universe. What I mean is that the universal wavefunction is limited to all possible universes with our set physical laws. Thus, the wavefunction would comprise of everything that could possibly exist under our set physical laws as created by the Big Bang (as we know it).

As such, the universal wavefunction does [b]not include:

-universes/structures that could have arisen from different physical laws from ours (alterations of our physical laws, if you will) that could have possibly been produced by the Big Bang (as we know it)

-universes with different initial conditions and physical laws different than ours

-impossible universes that can't exist under any physical laws or initial conditions; pure information states

-something beyond that

Alrighty. [/B]

I would think you be surprised on what matter can be shaped into, given intelligences beyond our comprehension. To the most brilliant phsycist a being might as well be altering the physical laws of the universe.

A being might reshape the moon to where it has a face on it and a mouth that can work out the oral motions of the human mouth mirroring the english language, carrying frequencies in the form of spectral-like waves accross the void of space. Sent behind it's oral movements sound interpreted and made manifest by the surrounding nitrogen, oxygen, and argon present upon entering the earth's atmosphere, retaining the moon's clear speech without losing it's audibility. These instructive wave patterns would be sent out with a level of precise timing unimaginable by the human mind, the sound is simultaneous throughout the earth, present in every open area on the globe. These patterns, using that same precise timing, were already sent and dispersed within the atmosphere just long enough before the moon physically began it's speech. The words would fit the visual movement of the moon's mouth perfectly, despite light's astronomically superior speed to sound. The being could make it say, "You guys are so cool. NOT!"

Dolos is pretty much the most exaggerated demonstration of why physicists make poor neuro/biologists

Originally posted by Dolos
These instructive wave patterns would be sent out with a level of precise timing unimaginable by the human mind

derp, you mean like the wave patterns that create all other types of language that are specifically tuned to the temporal properties of human perception?

/lol

We could not percieve the level of timing in which this being is capable: Matching the sounds on earth with the light coming from the moving mouth we see on the lunar surface using only complex wavefunctions, with nothing but a view of incomprehensible quantum superpositions to go off of. He's using these perplex yoctoscopic instruments to coordinate a speech across millions of miles of emptiness, imagine all of the googols of variabilities and probabilities he must compute.

Hey now, no reason to get all silly mcmilly hostilly on me.

Don't worry, be happy. 🙂

I do admit I enjoy physics more than I do psychology and biology. Though math is where it's at. 😉

that could be described with simple mathematics... for a signal traveling at Y speed to location X, modify by Z to arrive at time T.

the number of calculations would be beyond us, sure, but the timing is terribly simple (though bending it around the curvature of the earth so that people on the side facing away from the moon could see/hear it is otherwise impressive)

So where does my lack of neuro-scientific and biological literacy tie into this?? 😗

In fact, it's simply a lack of communication skills. pfft, comm skills...

I should have said "with precise timing requiring a number of calculations vast beyond imagining, each too complex for human understanding."

Does that suit you fancy or did I leave myself open for another jab at my intellect?

Originally posted by Dolos
We could not percieve the level of timing in which this being is capable: Matching the sounds on earth with the light coming from the moving mouth we see on the lunar surface using only complex wavefunctions, with nothing but a view of incomprehensible quantum superpositions to go off of. He's using these perplex yoctoscopic instruments to coordinate a speech across millions of miles of emptiness, imagine all of the googols of variabilities and probabilities he must compute.

Hey now, no reason to get all silly mcmilly hostilly on me.

Don't worry, be happy. 🙂

I do admit I enjoy physics more than I do psychology and biology. Though math is where it's at. 😉

Originally posted by Scarlet Fox
...... o.o ... wut?

Ya see, nobody understands me.

Maybe I'm just too dumb to communicate textually. Open your mind I am going to incept some ideas, and then put a ton of pictures into your brain.

I would rather my brain not be raped but words too big for Scrable. -pats-

You're missing out on a good time by closing your mind to me.

Originally posted by Dolos
So where does my lack of neuro-scientific and biological literacy tie into this?? 😗

In fact, it's simply a lack of communication skills. pfft, comm skills...

totally, who cares about whether you are able to properly convey what you mean to others, I'm with you man.

Originally posted by Dolos
I should have said "with precise timing requiring a number of calculations vast beyond imagining, each too complex for human understanding."

well, sure, but now its just an issue with you trying to be overly poetic. Humans can't imagine much more than 100, if that (we can only track like 8 objects at one time), and if "understanding" doesn't include mathematics, we can't comprehend most of the world around us.

I shouldn't have started it, is what "should" have happened

Originally posted by Dolos
Does that suit you fancy or did I leave myself open for another jab at my intellect?

when in doubt, play the martyr

Actually solving for each "Y speed to location X, modify by Z" would be beyond the computation of any current super-computer, much less a person due to the sheer numbers involved with all the variables and remote probabilities. Furthermore a human could never ever gather the neccessary data to plug into this equation because it requires fractal-vision, which, unlike eye-sight, would be too complicated for a human mind to understand anyway.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Over 9000, obviously.

Originally posted by Dolos

I could break the sound barrier with a sprint. I could make people fall in love with me without dominating their free will. I could blink and ever person who ever died on this planet would be ressurected as their youths, in perfect form

so that there would be a hundred billion perfect people with IQs over a thousand living in a paradise.

How would you create (or recreate) those memories that defined that deceased individual?

Originally posted by Lestov16
How would you create (or recreate) those memories that defined that deceased individual?

Honestly I don't recall where I was with that.

Originally posted by Dolos
I have a trivia for you Mindtrip, in that movie there were two body gaurds, one named Muse, my middle is the same as the other's first. What was his name? It starts with a R.

Originally posted by Mindship
I have no idea.