Originally posted by the Darkone
SA Mangog was High Sky Father level, it takes high Sky Father to beat a high Sky Father in their domain, which Mangog did to SA Odin, and KO Thor numerous times during that arc.SA Mangog = Sky Father level in power
Current Mangog= mid TransTo say other wise is banality ignorance.
Let me just tell you something. I have all the SA Mangog appearances and have read through them several times. That's means you can't lie without looking bad.
In no scene did Mangog EVER ko Thor. He failed to ko Thor in all that phucking time they were fighting.
Mangog didn't beat a normal Odin ever. Mangog never tanked a normal Odin blast either. But's that is just durability talk.
Mangog has high herald level offensive power (nothing more)
Mangog has skyfather level durability (nothing more)
Thus SA Mangog is Trans at best.
Trion would wreck him with punches alone.
Trion was so tall the Xmen appeared as ants to him. How is Mangog winning this? Punching his ankles? This doesn't include the large increase in strength he received. It was stated that if Trion kept pursuing in punching through dimensions, he would have destroyed "everything". Mangog dies but probably damage Trion left pinky toe during the process.
Originally posted by h1a8
Let me just tell you something. I have all the SA Mangog appearances and have read through them several times. That's means you can't lie without looking bad.In no scene did Mangog EVER ko Thor. He failed to ko Thor in all that phucking time they were fighting.
Mangog didn't beat a normal Odin ever. Mangog never tanked a normal Odin blast either. But's that is just durability talk.Mangog has high herald level offensive power (nothing more)
Mangog has skyfather level durability (nothing more)Thus SA Mangog is Trans at best.
Trion would wreck him with punches alone.
Let me tell you some thing troll,I don't give a damn about your so called collection appearances of Mangog, you still cant comprehended troll.
No one cares what you think, plus I wasn't talking too you if I was you would know troll baby. Now go drink a tall glass of STFU, troll baby!!!
Originally posted by CortSether
I thought Trion Juggernaut was just using the full capacity of the Cyttorak gem, which was at max 12% of Cyttorak's power, and not using all of Cyttorak's power.
That was my understanding, SA Mangog was damn near Galactus level going by what he was capable of. SA Mangog over powered SA Odin was almost Galactus equal, that alone should tell us something how powerful Mangog was when he defeated Odin in Asgard. Trion would be just feeding SA Mangog since he feeds on physical contact and hate.
Originally posted by zopzop
No, those were two separate instances. The Elder Gods are older (stupid Marvel half retcons notwithstanding) than all the other Gods.The Elder God purge took place billions of years before the Death Gods incident.
I'm pretty certain Set was there?
I'm possibly just jumbling up the names because the story was told at the death god meeting...
Originally posted by h1a8Silence!! Clownish Oaf of Undetermined Gender!!
Let me just tell you something. I have all the SA Mangog appearances and have read through them several times. That's means you can't lie without looking bad.In no scene did Mangog EVER ko Thor. He failed to ko Thor in all that phucking time they were fighting.
Mangog didn't beat a normal Odin ever. Mangog never tanked a normal Odin blast either. But's that is just durability talk.Mangog has high herald level offensive power (nothing more)
Mangog has skyfather level durability (nothing more)Thus SA Mangog is Trans at best.
Trion would wreck him with punches alone.
Mangog Knocks Thor Out #1:
Thor #156, Page 3- Mangog knocks Thor out by THROWING him down.
Thor #156, Page 8- Thor wakes up 5 pages later, basically saying, "Wha Tha Fu??", while Loki's minions are saying he should have stepped in when Thor got rocked.
Mangog Knocks Thor Out #2:
Thor #157, Page 10- Mangog crushes Thor's arm with one claw and throws him down so hard, it knocks him out. (For the rest of the story, Thor is a badly injured arm. How often has THAT happened?) Mangog is about to kill Thor, but is distracted.
Thor #157, Page 11- Balder drags Thor's unconscious body out of the fight. Thor looked injured in the previous panel, but is clearly limp as Balder drags him away.
Mangog Knocks Thor Out #3:
Thor #198, Page 6- Mangog strikes/throws Thor so hard, he is knocked out again.
Thor #198, Page 8- Thor is shown unconscious while Odin ineffectually strikes Mangog, is grabbed and tossed away. I, personally, have never seen any opponent do this to Odin, full-powered or weakened.
Thor #198, Page 12- Thor wakes up from his KO, 6 pages later, backed up by narration.
Mangog as Odin, Knocks Thor Out #4:
Thor #250, Page 6- In this story, Mangog is disguised as Odin while Odin has disappeared. Mangog uses a blast to knock Thor out this time.
Thor #250, Page 7- Thor is shown, unconscious, being carried away.
I must thank you, h1... whatever. You have helped me discover something of Mangog.
It would seem that we have a new, until now, undiscovered/unclassified attack, akin to the fabled "Thunderclap" of Hulk fame.
The attack used by Mangog in knocking Thor out 3 times, is also used during his first 3 appearances to knock out the entire Asgardian Army and bring a Full-Power Odin to the point of surrender and then knock out a less-than full-power Odin.
Mangog seems to be able to throw his opponents, throw geography, throw armies, etc, resulting in High-End KO's! He flips them and throws them, up and down. And, they end up unconscious.
Originally posted by curryman
I'm pretty certain Set was there?I'm possibly just jumbling up the names because the story was told at the death god meeting...
Pluto
Seth
Hela
Mesphisto
Lilith
etc are death gods low Sky Fathers level beings, these are the ones and other that got rage stomp by Atum/Demogorge.
as where Set, Chthon, Belezaar, Gaea, Oshtur, Agammotto, Atum The God Eater/Demogorge, Rune King Thor and SA Odin
Set, Chthon are the two that ran away when Atum was killing the fallen Elder gods that turned demons and restore order on Earth.
Seriously though, Mangog has knocked out Thor several times and that trend continued into the Jurgens era (he was beaten pretty brutally by Mangog even then).
Anyone arguing against that is arguing against basic fact.
That being said, this fight seems more like a stalemate. Silver Age Mangog was a beast and did appear to fight on sky father level.
Originally posted by CortSether
I thought Trion Juggernaut was just using the full capacity of the Cyttorak gem, which was at max 12% of Cyttorak's power, and not using all of Cyttorak's power.
Originally posted by the Darkone
That was my understanding, SA Mangog was damn near Galactus level going by what he was capable of. SA Mangog over powered SA Odin was almost Galactus equal, that alone should tell us something how powerful Mangog was when he defeated Odin in Asgard. Trion would be just feeding SA Mangog since he feeds on physical contact and hate.
How was SA Mangog Galactus equal?
He had no power output.
We prove things by feats.
SA Mangog never overpowered or beat a non weakened SA Odin.
If Mangog is so powerful then why do you have to result to lies?
That's worst than trolling.
Originally posted by deathlifeDid you even read the Thor comics? I have them. Mangog has never koed Thor. They battled many times over.
Seriously though, Mangog has knocked out Thor several times and that trend continued into the Jurgens era (he was beaten pretty brutally by Mangog even then).Anyone arguing against that is arguing against basic fact.
That being said, this fight seems more like a stalemate. Silver Age Mangog was a beast and did appear to fight on sky father level.
Originally posted by h1a8Dude. Is there something wrong with you? Seriously. 😆
Did you even read the Thor comics? I have them. Mangog has never koed Thor. They battled many times over.
His power output sucks. Even Jurgens Mangog has hit Thor literally hundreds of times (the recorder shows this) and still wasn't able to ko Thor.
Then, you really should not show up in these threads again after this.
You either blatantly lied, or have no idea what you are talking about. There is no 3rd option.
Originally posted by h1a8
How was SA Mangog Galactus equal?
He had no power output.
We prove things by feats.SA Mangog never overpowered or beat a non weakened SA Odin.
If Mangog is so powerful then why do you have to result to lies?
That's worst than trolling.
STFU, no one is taking you seriously and you are making yourself foolish which is nothing new for a troll like!!
You cant accuse nobody of trolling, for you are the Father of it and no truth is in you!!!
Troll King
Originally posted by Horrificus
Dude. Is there something wrong with you? Seriously. 😆
I just posted the scans of Thor being KO'd by Mangog. Page Up.Then, you really should not show up in these threads again after this.
You either blatantly lied, or have no idea what you are talking about. There is no 3rd option.
That's what I'm saying, he distorts and blatantly lies to act like he knows what he is talking about.
He is trolling beyond belief and accuse others of doing it, where he is the main one doing it. That's why he is on ignore list, just tried of his BS ways and he is getting worse, he is a troll on steroids.
Originally posted by h1a8
Did you even read the Thor comics? I have them. Mangog has never koed Thor. They battled many times over.
His power output sucks. Even Jurgens Mangog has hit Thor literally hundreds of times (the recorder shows this) and still wasn't able to ko Thor.
Perhaps the problem is that H1 is confusing the MODERN version of Mangog with the Silver Age version.
Jurgens, writer noted for books produced in the 80s and 90s, was writing for a time readers today might not know of, as his stories are, what 20 years old? Possibly 30?
Yet they are still not far enough ago to qualify as Marvel's Silver Age, which would have been comprised of the stories crafted in the 1960s and 70s.
